There seems to be all sorts of hoo-hah spoken and written about this band.

Crap?

Not crap?

I learned about them here years ago, and thought they had something pretty cool as a three-piece. I just watched a recent YouTube 'in the basement' set from them with more musicians involved, and dug it, too. Not crap.

I enjoy them. Don't care that you can see where it's all been cribbed from. Also bonus drummer points. NC.

I was initially dismissive like many were in the last thread, but I grew to appreciate and enjoy them. The first album is great, and the live album that came out on bandcamp is even better.

I can't help but think that the more hostile reactions (including my own) were flavored with... a bit of subconscious jealousy? Chances are high that the majority of us on the PRF either had or tried to form a noise rock band at some point to little or no success. Then seemingly out of nowhere comes along a young group that is clearly informed by all the same post-punk/noise rock shit we all love here that were enjoying a very unusual amount of visibility and hype...

This band is fearless.
Very much not crap.

Skillful band (not my cup of tea BTW), but the singer REALLY annoys the crap out of me.

chexmixbreath wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 4:58 pm

I can't help but think that the more hostile reactions (including my own) were flavored with... a bit of subconscious jealousy?

Meaning no offense but this "jealousy" argument which comes up EVERY time anyone criticizes something/someone popular, is the dumbest argument ever.
That presumption that one CANNOT genuinely dislike something acclaimed by the most, and there's for sure some jealousy/frustration/malignant feeling behind that.
Most used argument to defend the most conformist crap, usually.

A friend of mine messaged me this week asking 'you wanna go to Minneapolis in October to see black midi?' And I was like, "Ok, sure." So that's happening (hooray for the return of live shows!). That same friend of mine is reviewing the new album for a site he writes for, and says it is "a stunner."

I find myself occasionally saying "she walks with a purpose" in a funny voice.

Not crap.

Haven't really clicked for me yet, but I am hearing lots of good things. Where's a good place to start?

oZZma wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 2:57 pm

chexmixbreath wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 4:58 pm

I can't help but think that the more hostile reactions (including my own) were flavored with... a bit of subconscious jealousy?

Meaning no offense but this "jealousy" argument which comes up EVERY time anyone criticizes something/someone popular, is the dumbest argument ever.
That presumption that one CANNOT genuinely dislike something acclaimed by the most, and there's for sure some jealousy/frustration/malignant feeling behind that.
Most used argument to defend the most conformist crap, usually.

While I'd agree 100% with your point for most cases, I do think in this case it was an insightful and honest opinion.