Caught this podcast recently. The guys going over the "Mid..." Halloween films made the assertion that, without much heavy lifting, the films could be edited so that Loomis was the actual villain.

I'd never really thought about it much until they brought it up.

Thought it might be worth finding out if I was the only one who had just completely tuned this possibility out.

I'm curious

OG Halloween 1,2,4,5? At worst he is an Ahab like character, but he is a doctor trying to stop a monster, doing the police's job half the time. At best he saved several lives and would have saved plenty more if people would have listened to him. In the original John Carpenter scripted entries Loomis is the one to kill Michael by sacrificing himself and blowing them both up.

RZ H1&2: Yeah, he is a villain.

I watched him for fifteen years, sitting in a room, staring at a wall; not seeing the wall, looking past the wall. Not sure why I love that line so much. In my head it goes on forever...seeing the atoms, looking past the atoms, considering the quarks...

I don't see how Loomis could be thought of as a villain unless he was the one who taught Michael how to drive.

rsmurphy wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:59 pm I watched him for fifteen years, sitting in a room, staring at a wall; not seeing the wall, looking past the wall. Not sure why I love that line so much. In my head it goes on forever...seeing the atoms, looking past the atoms, considering the quarks...

I don't see how Loomis could be thought of as a villain unless he was the one who taught Michael how to drive.

Astute observation

Got to thinking...

That face off in the gas station?

While I'm not exactly ready to say "Villain..."?

The only two possible outcomes there were "Clear Win..." or "You Just Kicked A Hornet's Nest..."