Today after a break of many years I re-listened to Detestation - got me thinking about the whole cult of GISM…but when you peel away the mythos, there’s not a lot there to sink yr teeth into (imo).
Props for artwork and general weirdness, but is that enough to get past the gate?
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How do you GISM?
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2Inadvertently created the black & roll genre. Amazing artwork. Sakevi may have been an actual psychopath.
Bathory were the better "band" overall.
Bathory were the better "band" overall.
I'd rather be throwing darts.
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3I'm only familiar with this band by name from crust punk patches and t-shirts, so can you tell me about the mythos?
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4Probably would have found them interesting (but not good) when I was 15.
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5From what I know, Sakevi did crazy shit like turn flamethrowers on the audience. I think he was relatively tame when they reunited.
I'd rather be throwing darts.
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6In the 80s there were just rumours about what batshit crazy folks they were and very pro violence which seemed weird at the time when “endless blockade” seemed so goofy. I think it’s a GISM member on the cover of the great punk hits comp…Krev wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 11:47 amFrom what I know, Sakevi did crazy shit like turn flamethrowers on the audience. I think he was relatively tame when they reunited.
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Wiki page has some interesting content re Sakevi and his P.O.W ZINE…
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7Never heard that name before, but japanese skizoos using flamethrowahs against their audiende is an automatic NC.
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8The legend was that the main G.I.S.M. guy turned a makeshift flamethrower on a salaryman who looked at him funny on a train, leading to the main G.I.S.M. guy's subsequent arrest.
IMO the debut is basically a mess (though a very interesting, entertaining mess) and the 2nd album has a few too many NWOBHM guitar lines jutting out in the Britpunk / noise mix. So good; but maybe not great.
N.C.
IMO the debut is basically a mess (though a very interesting, entertaining mess) and the 2nd album has a few too many NWOBHM guitar lines jutting out in the Britpunk / noise mix. So good; but maybe not great.
N.C.
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9Would I be a jerk for voting Lip Cream? Way more powerful. (The sadly deceased, mighty drummer Pill was in a class by himself. Went off on his own to form the sort-of-interesting Ogreish Orgamism too.)
For something freaky but still hardcore, I also prefer LSD (aka Lustmort Snatch Death), featuring the full-throated, downright painful vocals of Achy who, under a different name, was to became the short-lived original frontman of Zeni Geva.
GISM is weird and "dark" and angry but comparatively scrawny sounding.
For something freaky but still hardcore, I also prefer LSD (aka Lustmort Snatch Death), featuring the full-throated, downright painful vocals of Achy who, under a different name, was to became the short-lived original frontman of Zeni Geva.
GISM is weird and "dark" and angry but comparatively scrawny sounding.
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10I kind of agree with the last two folks. The twin melodic guitar/widdly-diddly metal solos feel so out of place. If I'm going to listen to early Japanese hardcore, the Comes No Side album, Gauze, Deef, Crow, and Confuse are more up my alley.