Ramones vs. Stooges vs The Velvet Underground?

The Velvet Underground
Total votes: 12 (48%)
The Stooges
Total votes: 8 (32%)
Ramones
Total votes: 5 (20%)
Total votes: 25

Either-Or: Ramones vs. Stooges vs The Velvet Underground

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Brett Eugene Ralph wrote:
geiginni wrote:I tend to side with Zappa.


That's all we need to know.


What he said. I despise Frank Zappa's music.

My order is:

VU (easily better than the other two, I think)
Stooges (though Raw Power isn't so great)
Ramones (who I also love, make no mistake)
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Either-Or: Ramones vs. Stooges vs The Velvet Underground

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MorphineCharley wrote:Man, I'd take almost anyone over Frank Zappa.....


...and I'd take Zappa over just about everyone.

Here's the difficulty I have, and I would in some cases describe it as an affliction: I've listened to all these groups extensively throughout my high-school years. At some point what they were doing became reduced by my changing listening mindset so that all I was hearing were the notes of the chords and progression. The energy the band was projecting, the aesthetic of their style and sum of their statement, the timbre and unique characteristic of their sound became irrelavent to how I was listening to the music. The only thing I was hearing were the same damn two to four chords pounded on in the same order again and again and again....

I can't help it. If something repeats sucessively like that more than a few times I'm bored and irritated. It just strikes me as lazy. I know that's not really the case, but that's how it makes me FEEL.

So now I'm in this mindset where most of what I listen to DEMANDS to be listened to - attentively. Everything else is background music and should only function in the background. I am engaged by things that surprise me. Geniunely unique timbres, wide ranging and sudden dynamic changes, complex harmonies and melodic phrasing, and little repetition.

Part of this is my desire for music that holds up to repeated listenings. I can't listen to a Stooges or Ramones album more than once in a great while (like...a few years). In one listening, neigh one song, I feel I've grasped all that is to be had and experienced from what they've done. On the other hand I could take the Zappa catalog and never run out of complex, broadly styled, and diverse music that provides in one sitting interpretations of rock, doo-wop, jazz, fusion, classical, dance, ethnic, avant garde, etc.... The same thing works for me with Debussy, or Bartok. I could listen to La Mer or the Quartet, or Miraculous Mandarin thousands of times without ever being bored by it.

Now of course, there are some exceptions to this...

Either-Or: Ramones vs. Stooges vs The Velvet Underground

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geiginni wrote: I don't really like any of these bands either. One trick ponies each, whose tricks have been recycled into a battle cry of musical ignorance by their devotees...
All are CRAP...or at least a big MEH....


I can definitely see The Ramones being one trick ponies, the Stogges maybe, but VU? One trick ponies? In a later post you mention listening to them in high school and it seeming to be "two to four chords pounded out..." VU are much, much more than that, in my opinion at least. But, then again, I find Zappa to be an extraordinarily unfunny mastubatory bore.

Either-Or: Ramones vs. Stooges vs The Velvet Underground

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I can totally see not liking Velvet Underground. I can't comment too much on the Stooges, as I have only a passing familiarity, but I think the Velvet Underground is much more 'art' than either of the other two. These guys hung around with Andy Warhol and Nico and Basquiat or whomever, and did some drugs and played some music for their art friends and their art friends put on some art shows and stuff and then they had kinky sex and read arty books and I can see it getting tiresome. Personally, I don't care about much of that. In my opinion, without White Light White Heat, VU wins by a nose, with White Light White Heat, they win by a length.

Either-Or: Ramones vs. Stooges vs The Velvet Underground

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MorphineCharley wrote:And I could live my whole life without ever hearing "Heroin" again


i could quite conceivably go the rest of my life with "Herion" on a nonstop loop...of course that's just in theory, but i really cannot tire of this song...it's one of those songs that every so often i just HAVE to hear...i go back and forth with it and "Sister Ray" as my favorite VU song...it's one of my all-time favoritest songs ever...and incidentally it has my absolute all-time favorite lyrics...

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