indiegrab_360 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:16 pm

Vibracobra wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:09 am

A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:48 pm I'm supposed to like The Clash, right? Well they're shit. End of.

Nick Cave too.

I do like some tracks scattered through their discography, but yeah, you're right.

Most of Nick Cave records I find them boring, but Let Love in is pretty awesome.

I have heard a couple stories about The Clash from someone who was around the scene and in a contemporary group (though slightly different genre of music) that played a show or two with them. Story goes//// The Clash changed their sound to fit in with "World Music" which was the trend of the day, and this guy called them out for it in a group social setting and said it was kind of lame... and he was wayy ostracized by lead singer of the Clash or whatever... and from then on everyone in the scene who didn't want to be associated with this specific guy for speaking his mind or not censoring his opinion more or less. Kind of funny because as someone else pointed out, mixing punk with reggae hasn't exactly aged well. Makes you look at all those rock docs in a different light. Sort of self-glorification and the average person just buys into whatever is said in them.

Frankie99 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:12 pm I’ve gotten yelled out of rooms for saying this but the Clash were the Monkees of punk rock. Not to be taken seriously, a few catchy tunes within an absolute dumpster of a catalog, and an inexplicably rabid fan base that should know better based on the rest of their tastes.

Crap. No waffles.

losthighway wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:24 pm I think getting yelled at for not liking something is just as stupid as being yelled at for liking it. There needn't be any sacred cows in rock music, and if rock journalists somehow made something sound mandatory it neither speaks for nor against the quality of that artist (but goddamn I understand it can make it difficult (see the entire existence of the band U2)).

I also like The Monkees and The Clash.

I also, also think there isn't a hint of guilty displeasure, or (I should actually love this) to be found here.

losthighway wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:24 pm I think getting yelled at for not liking something is just as stupid as being yelled at for liking it. There needn't be any sacred cows in rock music, and if rock journalists somehow made something sound mandatory it neither speaks for nor against the quality of that artist (but goddamn I understand it can make it difficult (see the entire existence of the band U2)).

I also like The Monkees and The Clash.

I also, also think there isn't a hint of guilty displeasure, or (I should actually love this) to be found here.

Dudley wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:24 am Another conversation - maybe less fun, but also interesting - is everyone looking at their own "should" part, working out who's saying it (for them), and why we give a shit about what they think.

losthighway wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:28 am
Totally. There's a natural knee-jerk against some imagined authority telling us what to like.

losthighway wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:28 am

Dudley wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:24 am Another conversation - maybe less fun, but also interesting - is everyone looking at their own "should" part, working out who's saying it (for them), and why we give a shit about what they think.

Totally. There's a natural knee-jerk against some imagined authority telling us what to like.

I know a dude who just hates David Foster Wallace because of his sense of the type of insufferable, pretentious people who put him on a pedestal. Those people exist. Unfortunately they detract from all of the humanity and wit of his writing.