We probably had it on the old forum, but that can’t be replied to.
Father of a nonsense belief system centered on the collective unconscious, a magical realm of ideas (archetypes) that underlie all human understanding. Later, to preserve his career in the Nazi era, states that Jews do not share the same collective unconscious as Aryans.
Crap, I say.
Re: Carl Jung
2It's pseudoscience of course (most psychology is), Jung wrote a certain type of literature more than anything. Doesn't mean there's nothing to it. After all, there are only like 7-12 types of stories to be told in the (our) world. These two ideas, "number of archetypes and number of stories," could be related, in the world of literature especially. Literature has applications in the real world.
Crap with waffles for the ideas.
Crap with waffles for the ideas.
Re: Carl Jung
3Sometimes it's like Jung took one thing Aristotle said and just fuckin ran with it.
Crap because psychoanalysis.
EDIT: At my local grocer there is a non-alcoholic wine by the name of "Jung", and that, to me, is bloody hilarious.
Crap because psychoanalysis.
EDIT: At my local grocer there is a non-alcoholic wine by the name of "Jung", and that, to me, is bloody hilarious.
DIY and die anyway.
Re: Carl Jung
4I think he made some interesting contributions which no one would call science. I'd put him in with William James, Aldous Huxley and Alan Watts as a kind of western intellectual who found occidental thinking to have limitations and so entertained a lot of mystical thinking as an alternative perspective.
Just like with dreams you don't go into that stuff looking for capital T "Truth".
Just like with dreams you don't go into that stuff looking for capital T "Truth".
Re: Carl Jung
5Trimmed to basically state what I feel. Not Crap. because "Magic", and Psychoanalyses are both Not Craplosthighway wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:09 pm I think he made some interesting contributions, don't go into that stuff looking for capital T "Truth".
"More open-minded than Catholics".
Re: Carl Jung
6I don't know much about James, but I would say Huxley and Watts were pretty harmless. Even Freud's crapola gave us a little bit of good literary criticism and the ridiculousness of Lacan, whose writings are on the level of a lifelong Andy Kaufman bit. The inheritors of the Jung lineage are Jordan Peterson and the new age charlatans who fused his fancies with Gurdjieff's hypnotism.losthighway wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:09 pm I think he made some interesting contributions which no one would call science. I'd put him in with William James, Aldous Huxley and Alan Watts as a kind of western intellectual who found occidental thinking to have limitations and so entertained a lot of mystical thinking as an alternative perspective.
Just like with dreams you don't go into that stuff looking for capital T "Truth".
Re: Carl Jung
7Oof, I don't know if you can pin that prick on Jung, as much as he'd appreciate the association.biscuitdough wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm The inheritors of the Jung lineage are Jordan Peterson and the new age charlatans who fused his fancies with Gurdjieff's hypnotism.
You can probably thank Jung for Joseph Campbell. So Jung invented Star Wars. I'm calling it.
Re: Carl Jung
8Fascinating man, lots of deeply interesting work.
The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious and The Red Book were mind blowers in my early 20s.
Mined a kind of thought that is currently very unfashionable amongst the "educated" classes but has universal appeal - ideas of vast, limitless horizons of connection and meaning that go beyond our little experiences in our little part of the world. This esoteric fare allows you to read a lot into it if you want to, so it's catnip for the disaffected. Jung's scale and scope (and, IMO, humility as an explorer of ideas) was much greater than most who wandered down this path.
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The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious and The Red Book were mind blowers in my early 20s.
Mined a kind of thought that is currently very unfashionable amongst the "educated" classes but has universal appeal - ideas of vast, limitless horizons of connection and meaning that go beyond our little experiences in our little part of the world. This esoteric fare allows you to read a lot into it if you want to, so it's catnip for the disaffected. Jung's scale and scope (and, IMO, humility as an explorer of ideas) was much greater than most who wandered down this path.
NC
Re: Carl Jung
10I don't know much about James.biscuitdough wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
Just like with dreams you don't go into that stuff looking for capital T "Truth".
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William James was a diplomatic, pussified version of Nietzsche.
I had a therapist when i got divorced and she asked me to talk about my dreams. I put a stop to that straight away.
The world is filled with "magic." We just can't prove it.