Hexpane wrote:are you guys in europe or something? the laws are not the same here in CA. Anyone can get and ride a scooter w/ a normal license.
the techniques are absolutely not the same. My ex girl could ride the scooter w/o any instructions. If I hopped on a motorcycle w/o any instructions , training needless to say that would not be advisable and also would be illegal.
OF COURSE some people ride both, but the cultures are night and day. You can not truly believe otherwise?
Actually you are totally wrong about California. The DMV out there classifies anything over 149cc's as being a "2-wheel motorcycle" just like in Illinois and the rest of the country. Anything under is classified as a "motorized bicycle or moped or any bicycle with an attached motor".
You also have two types of drivers liscense classifications for two wheeled vehicles, M1 and M2. Just like in Illinois except we call them "L Class" and "M Class". With a Class M1, you can operate any 2-wheel motorcycle (over 149ccs) and any motorized vehicle in Class M2. With a Class M2, you can only operate any motorized bicycle or moped or any bicycle with an attached motor.
As for techniques the physics of a two wheel vehicle in motion is the same regardless of the transmission type. Therefore you ride one just like the other. If you didn't you would very quickly be injured or dead.
I think maybe you believe all scooters are automatic "twist and go's" which they are not and that that has something to do with riding technique which it does not. Many scooters have manual transmissions and a clutch just like a motorcycle. Many scooters also have a foot rear brake and a hand front brake just like a motorcycle. When braking you would distribute your braking force across both brakes on a scooter as you would on, say it with me, a motorcycle. Your mass, the road conditions and your rate of speed will determine the particular details of how much and when to brake but the "technique" is the same for both types.
You ride offensively on a scooter just like on a motorcycle and are equally vulnerable on both.
As for the cultures sure there is some variations and there are some scary motorcycle riders who will not tolerate a scooter and some scooterists who will not tolerate a motorcycle. But more often then not there are riders who tolerate both. There are asshole attention whores. There are asshole attention whores in almost anything and are not exclusive to motorcycles. There's a few riders who I think are total dicks.
Some people only care about fashion or appearances which is really just an extension of their insecurities derived from their small penises. This is also why they show off on their rice burners or their $20k weekend cruisers with the loud fucking pipes. The rest of us, secure in our penis sizes, just love to ride.
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