eliya wrote:can't believe I got kerbled! That was my first time and I swear that I made a search!

Don't feel bad - this thread is now bumped, and more people will say more good things on it.

It's weird to see sensible people saying sensible things about how they love the Sex Pistols. It blows my mind, such a boring band, so beloved by non-boring people. I thought the Clash vs. Sex Pistols thread blew my mind, but this one blows my mind more (even though I like Clash better than Ramones). Dunno. At least the right choice is winning this poll.

Oh, and as for

NerblyBear wrote:None of the initial punk rockers considered [The Clash] to be a genuine item.

Tell me - is basing your opinion of a band on what other people thought of that band a "punk" or "not punk" thing to do? Show your work.

the sex pistols.

and let's leave husker du out of this. It's obvious people are incredibly divided on this point and I don't like seeing what might be my favorite band being dragged through the mud because people are comparing them to the sex pistols and the ramones.

Again, the Ramones' debut takes it, for me.

But I want Steve Jones's guitar tone.

Come on bros, hop in my lifted truck so we can drive across the Atlantic and start some Anarchy in the U.K.



Ramones have got my vote.

Ramones.

The Pistols get points for putting out only one record.

Ramones. Really needs no explanation.

The Clash were great.

Most conversations in re authenticity are bullshit.

Ramones.

I love the Ramones, but I couldn't do this one on points.

I first heard Never Mind the Bollocks in 1982. I still get goosebumps, literally, when I hear the beginning of almost any song on that record.

And, as noted, the live version of No Fun is something to which I keep coming back over the years.

There was something truly vicious and thrilling in their music that doesn't end up in most music.

Sex Pistols.

I stopped listing to Sex Pistols when I tore my knee and had to stop skateboarding. I don't really know the connection, it just all happened at once. I still enjoy The Ramones.

ERawk wrote:I would also take that Clash over both, thankyouverymuch.

i'd take the clash self-titled over both. every other clash release, including london calling... no way, that music is garbage.

hey can someone recommend some good ramones songs that are more off the beaten path? for years i've only been familiar with the 20-something songs on the greatest hits, and rocket to russia. much of it sounded just about the same so i never got anything else. but everyone here is pretty darn enthusiastic about the ramones... recommendations, please?

Well..... if it's a straight up gang fight The Ramones win. Ever hear the story about Johnny Rotten being scared to meet them? He thought they were a street gang and would beat him up!!!
The Ramones win because they also had so many great ballads. The whole Phil Spector trip. Joey sounds like Elvis to me.
Honestly , the Ramones make the Sex Pistols sounds downright WHINY.

Well to be fair, I never actually saw the Sex Pistols play live, but I'm going with Ramones.

Big props to the Sex Pistols for challenging authority in a spectacular way, but I find the Ramones' music to be 10X more listenable.