I had a dollar and access to a juke box on Monday night...I played "Fuck Tha Police" while my friends were setting up onstage. I enjoyed myself thoroughly...giggling to myself while they put up their equipment. It was like drawing a penis on a desk in 8th grade...punky satisfaction.

Skronk wrote:Some good rap I've found over the years:

-Sage Francis
-Mr. Lif
-Doseone
-El-P
-Gang Starr
-(early) Aesop Rock
-Cannibal Ox
-Slug
-Atmosphere
-Edan

I don't listen to much rap, but when I do, I play one of those guys. Like a lot of music, rap is 95% crap, with a healthy, smart 5%.

Atmosphere? Are you some lame-o Minnesota kid? Fuck Atmosphere's white-bred bullshit. Atmosphere is as lame as Eminem...and Eminem is at least still "clever." Very "serious" white rappers are loathesome types. Ever been to a white rapper concert? Holy shit...the word "misguided" comes to mind...

Good hip-hop?

-N.W.A.
-Public Enemy

That's pretty much the shit. There's more before and after, but that early '90s hip-hop period is where "impressive" begins and "good" ends.

Boombats wrote:People who dis rap invariably mention shit like gangsta, bitches, bling, etc, all the bad elements of sociaty that crept into the music. That's like white people mentioning crack fried chicken and malt liquor when black people are discussed. It's also as ignorant as bringing up KISS or Creed in a Shellac discussion, because you haven't heard Shellac but you know they play guitars on a stage like KISS.

You just want to throw shit at something you misunderstand.

You suck.

One of the best posts ever....almost too funny and absolutely true.

BTW...the only thing I have against Rap music (at least commercial Rap) right now is the weak fucking beats and music...Jesus H. Christine. on a busted unicycle......this shit is really starting to sound the same.

Like most music, rap can be good and it can be bad. I've been getting into a number of rap/hip-hop artists for the first time in years. I've found a lot of good music!

Interesting though how the industry is under fire after the whole Imus thing. Curious to see if anything comes of it, though I suspect nothing will.

most of this thread is worse than the boobs thread. hip-hop is not crap, but as with anything you must be discriminating, otherwise you are not a proper audiophile. if you voted crap, you are also not a proper audiophile--there's just no excuse for a crap vote. voting crap: crap.

Favorite rap!
-Wu Tang
-dOSEONE
-Eric B. & Rakim
-Public Enemy
-Saafir
-Tupac
-Dr. Dre
-Eminem
-Sage Francis
-Lil' Wayne
-The Team
-David Banner

JC23by5 wrote:BTW...the only thing I have against Rap music (at least commercial Rap) right now is the weak fucking beats and music...Jesus H. Christine. on a busted unicycle......this shit is really starting to sound the same.

Know what I have against rap?

The Ying Yang Twins.

Ugh.

Putting aside the disgusting misogyny, the lack of talent, the boring beats, let's just focus on the fact that whenever they get on a track it sounds kind of like someone decided it would be a great idea to let their cousin with Downs take sixteen bars.

Boombats wrote:People who dis rap invariably mention shit like gangsta, bitches, bling, etc, all the bad elements of sociaty that crept into the music. That's like white people mentioning crack fried chicken and malt liquor when black people are discussed. It's also as ignorant as bringing up KISS or Creed in a Shellac discussion, because you haven't heard Shellac but you know they play guitars on a stage like KISS.

You just want to throw shit at something you misunderstand.

You suck.

Salud.

I'm really into A Tribe Called Quest and De La lately.

Skronk wrote:Some good rap I've found over the years:

-Sage Francis
-Mr. Lif
-Doseone
-El-P
-Gang Starr
-(early) Aesop Rock
-Cannibal Ox
-Slug
-Atmosphere
-Edan

I don't listen to much rap, but when I do, I play one of those guys. Like a lot of music, rap is 95% crap, with a healthy, smart 5%.

Some good choices in there, and I was just going to point out: Rock music probably follows the same percentages. How many bands that play rock music are actually good? Far and few between. That is all. Thank you for your time.

Anyone dig on The Goats? Excellent, I will sendspace them if desired. Philly hippety from the early 90's, reminiscent of Gravediggaz, very mixed group ethnically speaking.