yeah, Fat is a good label to deal with. he (Mike) was interested in releasing a friend's record on his side imprint, Honest Don's.

but i haven't really listened to NOFX since i was 16. it's not the worst stuff ever, but it's very bland and it seems like they've been going through the motions for about 15 years. not selling out to a major and mtv is all well and good, but not pushing yourself beyond a 3 chord gallup (and those goddamn octave leads) when you're 40+ years old is pretty sad.

crap.

it might be good if you're 16. maybe. i liked them a little when i was 17-19, but only in very small doses. it was kinda funny sometimes but their schtick wore thin quickly. i liked s&m airlines for a week. i laughed at the cover of liberal animation, and thought there was a small amount of cleverness in it.

they strike me as guys stuck in college.

NOFX is horrible. Calling this shit punk is an insult to actual good bands that did something more than standard pseudo-rebellious pop.

Fat Wreck Chords has an awful line up, other than maybe 2 bands. It's good they treat their roster with respect, but they still put out crap.

Music: Crap. Never understood the appeal. Never will

People: Not Crap in the least. Fat Mike is one of the friendliest, smartest, down-to-earth punk celebrity guys from L.A./O.C. I ever met. (Other candidate being Dexter Holland.) I helped stage manage a NOFX show in Irvine, CA in the early 90s, and NOFX were the only band on the bill (as headliners) that had zero attitude at all.

Album covers: OK, I think the sheepfucking album cover is brilliant.

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but i haven't really listened to NOFX since i was 16. it's not the worst stuff ever, but it's very bland and it seems like they've been going through the motions for about 15 years. not selling out to a major and mtv is all well and good, but not pushing yourself beyond a 3 chord gallup (and those goddamn octave leads) when you're 40+ years old is pretty sad.

I agree and disagree with this. They've carved out their own somewhat clever niche, they apparently have a lot of fun doing what they're doing. They don't promise Burger King then shit in your hat. You know what you're getting from them, which is admirable.

They have some really fun, great songs. The last few albums were pretty shit for the most part, but every record has some moments. NOFX is the premier discog mix-tape band. Find a few from each record, sequence them, then burn it. 80 minutes of good instead of 470 minutes of bleh.

"Punk"? Nah. But what the fuck else are you going to call it? Fast-pop? Three-chord skippy rock? Crap? For reals. If you want a good injection of all the emotions you probably felt in high school, there is pretty much nothing better than Fat's roster ten years ago. Maybe it is just me, but the guiltiest of pleasures can still get you off now and again.

Last time I saw them they played "the Decline" live in its entirety, and I got to meet El Hefe and Mike who were fucking hilarious mocking this kid's fedora with "Get Moshed" written in gold glitter pen on the side.

I'd like to the brief liberty to paraphrase Zom- Zom on this one:

"barfff"

I don't give a fuck if they're nice. The whole Fat roster doesn't move me to anything except more barfff. All those tinny, thin sounding guitars, all those nasal, raspy vocals, all those tired psuedo hooks...



I remember when I was 18, and they were gonna play a show at the Outhouse. Whatever, I don't blame them for not wanting to play to the five people that were there, and sure, the acoustic GG Allin cover jam they did with the AGs was fun and all but...getting to hear they're records later, I just thought "too fucking goofy."

A more useless band I have a hard time thinking of.

Kiddie punk. CRAP!!

I sometimes suspect that people who are so over-the-top dismissive of a band are probably compensating for more than a few skeletons in their record collection closet. Like how most people ranting on and on about "perversions" usually end up being more fucked up sexually than the people they are bitching about.

That being said, I have no ill will towards nofx. I enjoyed them when I was 16, as most people in this thread have said. I haven't listened to them sinc e however. "Drugs are good" is a catchy little dumb song and i recall enjoying the cd that had the cover art that looked like neopolitan ice cream.

not crap i guess, but with a shrug of a waffle behind it.

Can we agree that they peaked with "The Decline" and just say they've been crap since and were largely crap before?

Never owned any of it. They sucked out the gate. They might as well have dressed up like animatronic forest animals. Skeeball anyone?