I, too, have to say Pistols.

rocker654 wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:Steve Jones had seriously one of the greatest recorded guitar tones of all time. Chunky, muscular, furious.

I can get behind this opinion 100%.

I think the way Jonesy got it (aside from layering something like 10-20 tracks of guitar on every song or something like that) was with a '70's Les Paul Custom and a '70's Twin Reverb, cranked to hell and back and with Gauss speakers put in instead of the standard ones, with some class of phaser on "Anarchy in the UK." no distortion, just volume. An amazing, simply brutal sound.

aside from layering something like 10-20 tracks of guitar on every song or something like that

I was going to bring this up earlier but opted not to since it seemed like petty carping, but since you mention it, I will add that the effect of Steve Jones' guitar sound on the Sex Pistols' recordings was VERY CONSIDERABLY DETERMINED by the fact that there were VERY MANY TRACKS OF IT ON EVERY SONG. YES it was/is effective, VERY effective, but the knowledge that it was produced that way somehow lessens it, for me. Is that rockist or whatever? I dunno. Carry on.

I remember standing in a queue for some political gutter-punk show at the 1st Unitarian Church in Philly maybe five years back. Some Average Joe Hardhats walked by and one of them cracked to his buddy, "Gee, who's playin' tonight, The Sex Pistols?" To which a feminist crusty spat back with focused teenaged spite, "Uh, what do Sex Pistols have to do with punk? Johnny Rotten is pro-life!"

For this alone, I vote the Pistols. Still too punk for the punx!

Am far too impaired to parse this all out just now but will express general approval of the concept of "feminist crusty with focused teenage spite."

EDIT: The post that I had made did not really make sense.

In any case...Sex Pistols over Ramones? That just does not make sense to me.

It kind of pisses me off a little, actually. 25 - 15...and I suspect the margin will only increase...

...unless of course the poll stops and starts up again after some future fellating of the Sex Pistols...

Despite the divergence of opinion I am somehow touched that the result (thus far) of a poll on an internet message board about two bands that no longer exist has moved you to reach for such a degree of verbal aggression. My best to you and your girlfriend.

Obviously people are accidentally voting for the wrong band.

tommydski wrote:

curry pervert wrote:

Tommy Alpha wrote:Ramones never embraced a murderering parasite piece of shit and tried to sell him as a fucking folk hero.

Just curious, but who are you under the impression that he murdered?

It's a common misconception that Ronnie Biggs murdered a train guard during the Great Train Robbery. He didn't and there were actually no deaths during the robbery. One guard was knocked unconscious with an iron bar and suffered serious head trauma. However, this was at the hands of another Robber who was never apprehended.

Right you are. I thought he died years later due to the injuries (which would still be murder in my book albeit a very slow one). My bad.
Wiki says it was leukaemia. Still ruined his life though, and my point still stands that Ronnie Biggs was a fucking parasite championed by a bunch of fucking idiots.

By the way, don't you think its slightly suspect that the only violence was perpetuated by an unidentified suspect?

curry pervert wrote:

Tommy Alpha wrote:

242sumner wrote:

ctrl-s wrote:Pick one.

Today I'll say: Ramones. They were first.

...the first republican punk band ?

What about Ronnie Biggs? They were still the Pistols then.

You reckon? Half the members being exploited by the manager to wring the last few bucks he could out of them?

Tommy Alpha wrote:Ramones never embraced a murderering parasite piece of shit and tried to sell him as a fucking folk hero.

Just curious, but who are you under the impression that he murdered?

And yeah, I do reckon. You can't just have some kind of historical revisionism and discount that period of the pistols, shit or not. They were exploited the whole fucking way through, in some way or another, so why not include this period? They were the Pistols then and they were the Pistols in 1996 playing in Hyde Park or wherever the hell it was and the Ramones were the Ramones when they were doing Pet Cemetary and stuff with Phil Spector and when they had CJ on bass. You've got to add it all up.