One is more important, which?

UK
Total votes: 33 (51%)
USA
Total votes: 32 (49%)
Total votes: 65

Either-Or: 70s Brit Punk or 80s US Hardcore

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Chapter Two wrote:Without a trace of doubt in my mind, US hardcore wins this hands down.

The best that the best british punk bands had to offer was a furious live experience. They all still became crap on their major label deals or otherwise just wrote crap after crap to feed to their green and black spiked piss-soaked 'fans'. British punk was probably something awesome for about ten minutes in 1976.

US hardcore was the first time that bands decided to really be what they were saying they should be. Independent. Putting on their own gigs, releasing their own records, making networks. And being truly fucking ferocious. And then when ferocity became expected, doing something unexpected.

Etcetera.

The reason it was called hardcore punk is all the answer you need.


Fuck. I was gonna vote for the Brit-Punk, but now I am going to have to abstain from this vote.

Shit. Goddammit...never mind, I'll make a choice.

While I generally prefer American music, based solely on the merits of the music, I prefer Brit-punk. A tough vote, but there you have it.
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Either-Or: 70s Brit Punk or 80s US Hardcore

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I gotta go with the US hardcore scene that blossumed after the UK punk explosion of the 70's. Hell just the LA scene from 77-84 eclipses the entire catalog of music created in England. Another nice thing about it is that the American hardcore scene was not exploited in the media and in the public eye. Then again I have always had distaste for the UK music press.

Those musical pioneers in N. America created the infrastructure we still rely on today outside the icky world of the corporate music scene.

Either-Or: 70s Brit Punk or 80s US Hardcore

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Skronk wrote:
itchy mcgoo wrote:
Skronk wrote:Dead Boys vs. Dead Kennedys: US


These are both US. Maybe Soft Boys vs. DK




Oops, my mistake. I was thinking of Sham 69 and wrote the Dead Boys.


I like Sham 69. Borstal Breakout and Hersham Boys are great songs. I'd probably pick them over the Dead Kennedys.

I love the Soft Boys as well, but I wouldn't call them a punk band at all. Unless there's some older material I haven't heard.

Throbbing Gristle wins over Suicide because they are still making great music. I think TG may be the one band who I've listened to more than anyone else. Certainly within the Industrial music genre. I never get tired of them.
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Either-Or: 70s Brit Punk or 80s US Hardcore

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Mark Hansen wrote:You sure you didn't mean "sharty"? :)


Well, neither are really worth much of a poop to me and both blew a lot of hot air, so I'm sticking with "farty".

Not denying there aren't some okay Sham songs... "Tell Us the Truth" and the ones you mentioned, sure. But not a band I want to listen to or talk about much. There are elements there that remind of the things I don't like in US hardcore. Admittedly still have some records, tho. But farty, all the same.
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Either-Or: 70s Brit Punk or 80s US Hardcore

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I probably like more US hardcore bands than UK '77 punk bands, but in terms of influence, the Brit punk scene probably wins. Hardcore wouldn't have happened without that scene.

Of course, the original US protopunk scene created the original UK punk scene, so it all comes down - as many things inevitably do - to the first two Ramones albums and all three original Stooges albums.
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Either-Or: 70s Brit Punk or 80s US Hardcore

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SecondEdition wrote:I probably like more US hardcore bands than UK '77 punk bands, but in terms of influence, the Brit punk scene probably wins. Hardcore wouldn't have happened without that scene.

Of course, the original US protopunk scene created the original UK punk scene, so it all comes down - as many things inevitably do - to the first two Ramones albums and all three original Stooges albums.


Plus the New York Dolls, MC5, Velvet Underground, and a few others probably.

British Glitter/Glam had a big influence on all concerned as well, both on the American and British sides.
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