Teacher's Pet wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:48 am

rsmurphy wrote: Leathür Records pressing fucks trains.

Is this the "natural speed" version that came out first, which someone once told me about?

After I heard about that, the standard version always sounded sped up to me, and Vince sounds like a chipmunk anyway.

There's lots to hate here, and fuck Mötley Crüe, but this is a pretty cool album, at whatever speed. Not crap.

It's the original version, but I've never heard anything concerning natural speed. Mostly, the guitar sounds more gnarly and there is the admission of "Stick to Your Guns."

Vince Neil is terrible. He's always been terrible. He can't sing, and not in that charming Dylan way. Vince Neil is the luckiest, most privileged motherfucker. Dude needs beaucoup self-awareness.

rsmurphy wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:55 pm Vince Neil is terrible. He's always been terrible. He can't sing, and not in that charming Dylan way. Vince Neil is the luckiest, most privileged motherfucker. Dude needs beaucoup self-awareness.

So true. No Clue how they got any sort of musical notes out of him in the studio, live it's a one-note screech:

An old friend of mine used to get really bent up about how everyone else in this band could play guitar better than the guitarist. It's probably true for the vocalist, too.

biscuitdough wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:40 pm An old friend of mine used to get really bent up about how everyone else in this band could play guitar better than the guitarist. It's probably true for the vocalist, too.

a favorite Christgau slam that bears repeating. On Shout at the Devil Robert writes: "Still, I must mention Mick Mars's dork-fingered guitar before getting to the one truly remarkable thing about this record: a track called "Ten Seconds To Love" in which Vince Neil actually seems to boast about how fast he can ejaculate." Dork-Fingered. So great.

One would think I'd feel ill at ease dropping all this Crue science, but nah.

I hate this shit.

I empathize with the nostalgia value, but on the merits this is terrible. The first thing I thought when reminding myself by listening to Live Wire just now was "why not just listen to Motorhead?"

CRAP

Worse than Grave New World.

Bad. But I discovered "Tonight" by The Raspberries after hearing the Crue's shitty cover. If I had to listen them, I think I'd take Shout at the Devil over this one.

No matter how old or wise I may get, I am unable to vote Crap on the first two Motley Crue records. Not Crap to this.

Mick Mars may be "dork fingered," but he is absolutely the coolest member of the band and it isn't even close.

DrAwkward wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:11 pm Mick Mars may be "dork fingered," but he is absolutely the coolest member of the band and it isn't even close.

Agreed. And his guitarring on those first two records, and Dr. Feelgood if I'm being happy - and I am - are A-OK.