brephophagist wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:59 pm Cohen's lead guitar playing

They things that Malkmus does that I get the most impressed by are outside of the Leads and big parts. His general chordal and rhythmic structure really appeals to me. On records, I don't think his lead work stands out as being amazing, but live I've seen him do some really fun stuff and he is a really fun person to watch play guitar. Not like, see him on stage playing songs, but actually watch his hand and the fretboard. I just dig it. If I had never heard either band and you played me any snipit from any song from either player, I'd probably say AC was better, but through deeper listening, I prefer SM. Maybe because I grew up listening to Pavement, and didn't really listen to Silkworm until I was late into my 20's. There is some old bones there. As much as I appreciate Silkworm, I've never been wild about it.

penningtron wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:25 am lyrics: Cohen
songs: Cohen averaged out overall, but Malkmus' highs were higher
guitaring: Cohen seems obvious, but Maklmus' playing surprised me when I saw the Jicks later on.

guess that would be a Cohen vote, which makes sense as I really only love maybe 2 albums worth of Malkmus stuff.

If you are going to come at it from this angle?

You can put the two of these guys together, and it is still going to be Mary Timony.

(And I don't mind Malkmus and think a lot of Cohen...)

i remember years ago that Tim M mentioned that Malkmus was a sneaky fantastic guitar player.

Malkmus!
Aside of just liking Pavement a whole lot more than Silkworm, I think Malkmus' guitar absolutely carried Pavement.

I’m on Team Cohen. Fight me.

ABC is the guy for me, but I definitely admire Malkmus' ability to play weird shit and sing over it at the same time.

akosinski wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:31 am i remember years ago that Tim M mentioned that Malkmus was a sneaky fantastic guitar player.

Stephen really is great. His shit seems effortless and tossed-off, but he played all the time and got much more proficient in latter-day Pavement and the Jicks. And the earlier Pavement stuff already had cool guitar shit all over it.

Andy is a generational talent. There's literally no one else like him.

Idiomatic yet idiosyncratic and exciting player, and then someone who is kinda the only person in the world who can do what he does.

i agree with a lot of what eephus wrote.

I would vote Andy for "Slow Hands" alone.

Pavement was great and I liked SM's first record, but I don't really look forward to any future releases.

On the other hand, I still regularly listen to a lot of Bottomless Pit and the AC/Light Coma record. I remember watching AC in amazement at one of the PRF BBQs at Borelli's.

Gotta go with the home team here.