My objection ( as you read ) is that Yut likes to sneer and condescend and take personal shots at those who are also on the Left, but who do not subscribe to his 'they're all equally worthless, right and left' viewpoint.

No... That's where you are wrong. I don't swear at people like Steve, nor ...

Although I attended college in Los Angeles, one of my professors was from Chicago (Petrosik). He was the guy who first wrote about the realignment of the political parties in the 60s.

Anyway, he showed us a little film called "Ed Kelley and The Fighting 47th". Remembering this, I can understand ...

Jounalists are a big part of the problem. They are, for the most part, glorified English majors with a high-school civics/govt. understanding of politics. So when they cover the political beat(off), they are looking at legislation and votes, etc. Woodward and Bernstein had to be told to follow the ...

Yut, you need to realize that you are being a complete ass when you assume that we consider the Democrats to be "rock stars" or flawless. Maybe the more deluded or ignorant Democrats have faith in their politicians, but the people on this board are too disillusioned to have faith in anything.

For ...

The best you can do is to marginalize me by saying I don't think Chicago has good Mexican food? You not only demonstrate that you have no knowledge of politics beyond high school government class, but you also illustrate that you are a moron that has nothing valid to contribute to this discussion ...

The point is -- who do I vote for if I don't want a war at all? That isn't a ballot option, nor is giving yourself the Ambassadorship to Sri Lanka. Don't let your frustration blind you to those things you can influence.

Exactly... In fact, very few things have been settled at the ballot boxes ...

The problem is, both parties are towards the center of the political spectrum in terms of how they act. You are basing your views on what they say and not what they do.
Nonsense. I am well aware of how short the "left" in america falls of its stated goals and promises. You are the one who is ...

This is hypothetical
No it's not. He's asking you to compare 1992-2000 vs. 2000-present. Please do so and then tell us you see no difference between the two administrations.


I can only go on what Clinton said three months ago. "I would have 200,000 troops on the ground too". Who do I vote for ...

You are buying the party line. Look at results and not words.

Again, to pose the question that you must answer to justify your position:

Compare Bush's two terms with Clinton's two terms, and then tell me honestly that you have absolutely no preference between the two of them.


This is ...

It is people like you, Steve, that let the Democrats off the hook so easy. It is people like you that swallow these lies again and again and put these losers in office.
It's people like you, anonymous internet fucktard, that provide the winning margin for the demonstrably much worse regime to ...