The American Dream

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tmidgett wrote:i think this country is a work in progress

Ahh, but what progress!

We have already invented everything, won all the wars, installed all the dictators, put men on the moon, created the internet, etc.

Our founding documents are the best ever! No kidding! Our Bill of Rights, she is perfect! Our Declaration of Independence, so beautiful the writing! Our Constitution, so smart! Our bi-cameral legislature, so smart a design! Our Electoral College, again, so smart!

The "American Dream," about pulling yourself up from your ass-fallen and making something of yourself? I know many people who do it. I also know many people who will never do it. I think is no special thing for America.

I think is sometimes use as argument for greedy right-wing assholes with no charity in them. They say, "Is America! You can succeed if you no lazy! You must to be lazy, poor people!" People who "make it" must to remember how few the opportunities for most peoples, and instead to say, "Hey, I am in good shape, poor people. I have not been put into prison, or shoot by gangs, or lose my mind to drugs. Let me help you out a little bit. I can afford it!"

This is dream, okay?
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How many people were killed in 20th century Europe for perverse ideas and nation-building? 60 milion? 65 milion?

It can.
Always.
Be worse.

It's this idea of "superstates" that sucks. Superstates aggregate huge sums of tax revenue. They have acces to a great pool of potential fighters. It makes the whole thing irresponsibly dangerous. It sucks.

.....

Did somebody say "Switzerland"?

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Don't everybody like the smell of gasoline?
Well burn motherfucka burn American Dream
Don't everybody like the taste of Apple Pie?
We'll snap for your slice of life I'm tellin' ya why
I hear that mother nature's now on birth control
The coldest pimp be looking for somebody to hold
The highway up to Heaven got a crook on the toll
Youth full of fire ain't got nowhere 2 go nowhere 2 go



-- OutKast ("Gasoline Dreams")





I think that most would agree that the response (and lack thereof) to Hurricane Katrina and the situation in New Orleans have highlighted a lot of the socio-economic or structural problems with the "American system." Namely, there is a class war being waged all the time, indeed on which American society, in practice if not in its founding documents, is based. While class war is a global phenomenon and the worst exploitation has always been carried outside the borders of western nations, things are pretty fucked up inside, too. AT bottom, the law is about property, not justice, so shoot the "looters."

When I was in New Orleans 6 or 7 years ago one of the most profound images I took away with me were the signs posted for pedestrian tourists warning us not to enter certain neighboorhoods as they were "unsafe." It's been too long since I was there, but these signs were on the bottom of freeway columns at ground level (maybe the I-10??) and by crossing under the freeway you entered, essentially, a ghetto -- a socioeconomic concentration camp.

In most Canadian cities, the dividing line between where a visiting white guy can walk safely and where he cannot is not so rigidly drawn. Certainly the gov't doesn't post public signs advising people about it (meanwhile Canada has its reservation system, a system that South Africa looked to and borrowed heavily from when drafting and instituting its apartheid legislation).

Anyway, as the biggest player and bully on the field -- the capitalist juggernaut du jour -- I know "America" ("just a word but I use it") faces a lot shit-slinging from haughty leftists like me (all of it ineffectual no doubt), but I think this post over at Crooked Timber is a great take on a couple important myths about America, especially on how the primacy of cheap oil distinguishes American life from European. Maybe some of the Europeans on the board would care to differ or respond though?



Myths about America
Posted by Maria

The Hurricane Katrina disaster and looming political crisis aren’t easy for an outsider to decipher. But we do have one advantage; not having believed in many American myths in the first place. For starters, the myth that the US is a generous and free country where anyone can achieve almost anything.

The abundance – of food, cars, roads, tv stations, just about everything a European could imagine, and then some – is probably unprecedented historically, and limited geographically to America. Growing up comfortably middle class in Ireland in the early 1980s, I found it almost unbelievable that T.V. Americans seemed to drink orange joice every day when we had it just for Christmas, went shopping just for fun and could afford to keep their enormous fridges constantly full. (T.V. Americans were forever hanging up the phone without saying goodbye, slamming car doors, and divorcing each other at the drop of a hat, but that’s another day’s incredulity.)

In my own fuzzy-logic way, I’d presumed that the cheapness of every day goods in the US was mostly because of the flexibility of the economy, i.e. the ability of employers to pay low wages, fire at will, offer few benefits, and generally pass on costs like environmental protection or maternity benefits. A few weeks in California cured me. Sure, labour ‘flexibility’ helps. But the cheap price of petrol is more important than I’d ever imagined. As newspapers and coffee breaks filled with doomsday scenarios of paying $6 dollars a gallon for gas, I sat down one day and did the sums.

That’s what we pay in Ireland. Today. Most of the extra cost goes in taxes, and the cost of that affects every imagineable part of life. Paying more for oil makes everything more expensive – getting food to the shops, from there home, cooking it, and cleaning up afterwards. It means more people rely on public transport, creating a policy feedback loop of greater government spending and making more citizens using shared resources every day of their lives. It means we don’t run central heating or (if we had ever needed it) air conditioning all or most the time, and probably just put on another jumper when it’s cold. It means we advertise cars based on their fuel consumption and we don’t have ‘all you can eat’ restaurant buffets. Teenagers don’t have their own jobs and cars, and rely on their parents, the bus or shanks mare to get around. They get it off in parks instead of cars. Not that many people drive to the gym. Until recently, not many people needed to go to the gym either.

Others on CT understand far better than I do the economic significance of America’s globally unique strategy of running a vast economy on cheap, cheap oil. And yet others can discuss how this dependence makes America less and less secure. (And how Amerca’s efforts to secure its own oil supply has made the world less and less secure for the rest of us.) It’s been a simple but revealing insight for me; the myth that America’s economic engine purrs along fuelled by of the virtues of its rather brutal labour market is only partly true. US work places may be dominated by the masochistic ideology of living to work, but the secret of success is simple. America lives or dies on cheap oil.

That’s one myth. Then there’s the myth that this is the land of opportunity. That anyone born a citizen can aspire to being president. Even if she didn’t go to Yale. And that anyone can use their own hard work and ingenuity to make it rich. This is one myth that many Europeans envy and also, sometimes, despise – mostly because we’d like to believe it too. It’s just that while in theory anyone can be a doctor or president, the reality is that you really only have a chance if your father was one too. Even the Economist grudgingly admits that social mobility is higher in Germany (Germany!) than it is in the US. So when Europeans point to the inescapable but seemingly uncontroversial race and class-based poverty and injustice that also exist in America, we find incredulous the prevailing ideology that poverty is personal, not structural. Or the belief that poor people have just made bad choices. But usually in these discussions we’re talking at cross purposes. Hell, we might as well be speaking French.

You don’t have to be Joseph Campbell to figure out that the lottery myth – the idea that every American has a chance of buying, no, earning that winning ticket in the lottery of life – is a sustaining myth that does more to placate than motivate. It’s also part of that myth to think a structural or political approach to poverty is cut off at the knees by pointing to the one in a million who’s managed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. And so the argument goes round, the old worlders as blinkered by our own myths as the new, in a dialogue of the deaf that has no shared understanding of the world as it is, let alone of how it should be.

And then you see what’s happening in New Orleans. Where a natural disaster has shone the light on what’s ugly and usually hidden in American life; the inherent and unconsidered racism, the casual brutality, the values that prize property above people. You see people being blamed for being poor. You see black people penned in like animals and made to live in their own filth. You see in America people dying of thirst. Of thirst. You see people pushed beyond civility, beyond reason, beyond any imaginable breaking point, to be met with gun fire and the self-serving response ‘there, do you see how these people really are? It’s the war of all against all down there.’ You wonder what the Christian right might have to say, and fear it’s not ‘whatever you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me’, but rather; ‘devil take the hindmost’. Which he clearly did.

There is a war of all against all in America. But it’s not limited to Mississippi and Louisianna. The myths that have held the poor in check are now exposed. The callous disregard of this administration for the poorest and weakest Americans is now on display for the world to see.

In some ways, we’re not surprised to see this selfishness and wickedness exposed. After all, what did you think has been going on in Iraq for the past couple of years? Or what do any of us think is going on in Niger, in Sudan, or in any of the nameless places of boundless human suffering that we just aren’t interested in hearing about? The main difference in NOLA is that it’s harder to control the reporters, and the people suffering speak English and they expect to be heard.

But in another way, as a non-American I feel more shocked, disappointed and let down than maybe even some Americans do. We, too, can barely believe this is really happening in America. We can hardly believe that we are (gladly) opening our wallets to the poorest people of the richest country in the world. For so many people who live outside the US, America truly is a beacon of hope, a real if flawed exemplar of how new ideas can set people free. We’ve had our own myths too.

posted on Sunday, September 4th, 2005 at 2:39 pm
http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/04/myt ... #more-3756

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LAD wrote:
I think that most would agree that the response (and lack thereof) to Hurricane Katrina and the situation in New Orleans have highlighted a lot of the socio-economic or structural problems with the "American system." Namely, there is a class war being waged all the time, indeed on which American society, in practice if not in its founding documents, is based. While class war is a global phenomenon and the worst exploitation has always been carried outside the borders of western nations, things are pretty fucked up inside, too. AT bottom, the law is about property, not justice, so shoot the "looters."

When I was in New Orleans 6 or 7 years ago one of the most profound images I took away with me were the signs posted for pedestrian tourists warning us not to enter certain neighboorhoods as they were "unsafe." It's been too long since I was there, but these signs were on the bottom of freeway columns at ground level (maybe the I-10??) and by crossing under the freeway you entered, essentially, a ghetto -- a socioeconomic concentration camp.

In most Canadian cities, the dividing line between where a visiting white guy can walk safely and where he cannot is not so rigidly drawn. Certainly the gov't doesn't post public signs advising people about it (meanwhile Canada has its reservation system, a system that South Africa looked to and borrowed heavily from when drafting and instituting its apartheid legislation).

Anyway, as the biggest player and bully on the field -- the capitalist juggernaut du jour -- I know "America" ("just a word but I use it") faces a lot shit-slinging from haughty leftists like me (all of it ineffectual no doubt), but I think this post over at Crooked Timber is a great take on a couple important myths about America, especially on how the primacy of cheap oil distinguishes American life from European. Maybe some of the Europeans on the board would care to differ or respond though?


I will.
I don't think many "Europeans", though we are not a culturally homogenous group, are overly romantic about the American Dream (or the American myth, for that matter). I don't think many Europeans would want to change their political or economical system for the American one. I think the amount of admiration Europeans have for the United States is slowly but surely in decline. I think we used to think the States were something else. But in the past decades we´ve learned that America is really a country like any other. USA: the richest country in the world, but incapable of reaching out to it's poor. USA: the mightiest country in the world, but incapable of using it's force in a righteousway. USA: the biggest democracy in the world, but incapable of justly pulling off a proper election.

Note that these are issues most countries are dealing with. It's just we expected something more from the USA. Something else. I think we are a little disappointed.

I can't really say anything about the oil business, because I don't know that much about macro-economics. "The American Dream" definitely seems to involve mobility. Americans are prepared, much more than Europeans, to travel, to move a thousand kkilometersfor, for example, job opportunities.
European oil is so expensive because of taxes, obviously. Europeans demand more of their governments than Americans do. We demand, for example, a fair standard of living "from the cradle to the grave". For governments to ensure a social security of that magnitude, they need to generate lots of taxes. Thus products become, sometimes, ridiculously expensive. It's a trade-off.

I think what hinders Americans mostly is that they're overly ambitious. Americans are really much more ambitious than Europeans. Americans want to have their own businesses, Europeans want a pay-check. You know? I actually love this about the States. There is a dynamic there that is not precedented here in Europe. Every goddamn American dentist has written a book that he thought would make him a millionaire. Lovely. But on times Americans can get so ambitious that they block out every other reality. Your president, if you'll excuse me, is a prime example of that. Ofcourse the whole world wants democracy! Ofcourse everyone wants to be like US!

Not so. Just not so.

I love America. I'll visit any time I can. I think Americans, on the whole, are friendly, energetic, and hospitable people with a good sense of humour. I feel for you in what is happening now in your south. I think everyone does. Mind you: even Iran and Cuba have offered aid.

But we do not want to be like you. Just not. That's it. I think more Americans should realize this.

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sunlore wrote:"The American Dream" definitely seems to involve mobility.


Absolutely. And it's interesting to note that private vehicle ownership is lower in New Orleans than any other major city in the U.S. Meanwhile, +/- 10 000 dead and a week later, Halliburton moves in with a lucrative contract to rebuild. The pieces fit together rather neatly and the final picture doesn't resemble incompetent local bureaucracy. It's much bigger and uglier than that.

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Okay, I'm not trying to be retarded, but what is the American Dream?

The vibe I got from that article was that it is a... dream. As in those who don't know the full reality of America believe it, and those who do know see it for what it is...

I'm both a US and a Canadian citizen (born in the Kanada, my dad was still a US citizen)... I choose to live in Canada because of:

a. Bush, etc.
b. guns
c. family

In that order. If I were to move to California, doing the same job that I do here, I could make twice as much money and pay half as much tax. Is this the American Dream? Five years ago, I was a heroin addict living in a skid row hotel. No shit. Last year, I made 90k plus... Again, no shit. Is this the American Dream? This happened in Canada. My grandmother, a Japanese American, lived in an internment camp as a child in America, and went on to get a PhD from Stanford. Is this the American Dream?
If you do a little research into what is happening economically in China right now, as billions awake to the possibility of a better standard of living after decades of government control and corruption, you may be tempted to call it the Chinese dream...

I think the American Dream is the smiling face of capitalism and greed, which are by no means exclusive to America.

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