My theory?

Geiganni is really captianlo-fi!!

He just wanted to vent. Nothing wrong with that, G. In fact, your "soapbox set-up" was quite involved and thought-out.

Ah, fuck it....

Salut, Geiganni, for such an elaborate scheme!!!!!!

geiginni, what is destructive about VBR?
I normally rip cds at a 192 medium high VBR rate which usually puts each MP3 at around 200kbps (VBR).
I have yet to make the jump to MP4 simply because that means I would have to rerip my entire collection.

geiginni wrote:-Everything below 500 Hz must be in mono.

where do you get this information?

you have to watch it with LF in stereo, but i don't believe that absolute statement is true

-ALL vinyl masters have some degree of limiting on them, even if (or particularly, because) the source master has none.

the same can be said for any CD master with any kind of dynamic range that sounds decent. without limiting, the peakiest peaks determine overall level. if those peakiest peaks are not limited, the resolution of the audio content suffers greatly. just part of sound reproduction, regardless of format.

-The horizontal resolution of an LP is reduced some 70% from the beginning to the end of a side. Tracking distortion increases and frequency response decreases. On a rock or jazz LP you can easily put the quiet ballad at the end; not so easy to do with Beethoven's 9th, Carmina Burana, or Pines of Rome.

true. just last night, i was wishing 'supernaut' wasn't at the end of a side on _vol. 4_.

-Vinyl does degrade with playing (as opposed to CDs degradation being environmental). A stylus tip will heat to 700 degrees F while playing. As we know, that's hot enough to melt a little bit of the groove. After a couple hundred playings, you will notice it.

i didn't know the temp thing

i believe the degradation is minor if you have a decent turntable, however, and are not tracking at more than a couple grams, maybe 2.5g

Mahler symphonies, the Cure's Disintegration, etc. can be over an hour. That means cutting at 0dB or (eech!) -3 dB....hello noise floor, hello compression.

half an hour per side is simply too long for good sound on vinyl. 22 min is about the limit, i think. this is one big limitation of the medium, no doubt.

-I can't put my entire LP collection in my pocket and listen to it on the train ride to work (at least until I digitize it). There are practical aspects to this format that completely overcome any shortcomings. If someone told me when I was a teenager that in 15 years I'd be able to put 300 albums in a cigarette pack and listen to them anywhere/anytime I would have been blown away.

i agree

i think portable digital audio is great, as a temporary medium

when i actually pay money for music, i like it to be retrievable for the rest of my life, however. the only way to guarantee that is to buy vinyl. and i prefer reasonable-qual vinyl vastly over mp3 as well as cd. i capitulate on 24-bit digital--i think it probably beats vinyl. but i can't listen to it on my stereo, and i have no faith i could get stuff in a stable format easily in the near future.

sorry everyone, this just in. Stainless steel can in fact be scratched but it cannot be stained. I have been researching this on various web resources for the last hour. This is why the alloy was aptly named "stainless steel"

ps. Im not another user opening a new account to play a joke im a new user playing a joke, pleased to meet you all. Apologies if you think im a bumbling gimp who plans over-complex and consequently un-hilarious jokes.

Yes, if this "bumbling gimp" was going to fake an identity, I sure as hell would not be from "Kent, England"...

Given my penchant for Bartok, Kodaly, Paprikash, Cimbalom, gypsy music, hot steamy baths, and women that don't shave their pits, I'd probably pick Budapest for my fake location....or possibly Prague.

Cheers!

Why not digitize your vinyl?

Time consuming, yes.

However, best of both worlds, amigo!

full point wrote:Why not digitize your vinyl?

Time consuming, yes.

However, best of both worlds, amigo!

i have been planning to put all my cds on hard drive, back the drive up, and sell them

this will happen sometime before i am old, maybe. if it does, maybe i will then digitize my records!

tmidgett wrote:i have been planning to put all my cds on hard drive, back the drive up, and sell them

this will happen sometime before i am old, maybe. if it does, maybe i will then digitize my records!

I've thought about doing this but I have a feeling that my cds will outlast any hard drive or computer that I own.

tmidgett wrote:i have been planning to put all my cds on hard drive, back the drive up, and sell them

I did this a few months ago, with the exception of a view CD-only releases that are near and dear to my heart.

I'll never part with my vinyl...

A very wise old man at my local audiophile equipment dealership said this to me one day:

Old Audiophile Doude wrote:I think the reasons I like vinyl are the same reasons everyone else doesn't. I enjoy the ritual of taking a record out of its sleeve, dusting it, and setting the needle in the groove. I enjoy the fact that I have to flip the side every 20 minutes or so. I like watching the tone arm bob up and down etc etc etc...

I feel the same way. I have my iPod for the car, but if I'm at home, I would just plain rather listen to a record than my mp3 collection. I'm by no means an audiophile, and my equipment by no means even approaches that caliber of quality; I just like something about it that I can't put my finger on.

That, and liner notes. I need liner notes. Lots of them.