I think that the big newspapers are on their way out.........they are crap. Sure they'll always be around(?), and NEWSPAPERS IN GENERAL will always be around in some form....that's not the issue. The issue is whether the big papers (i.e. the ones that matter most: NYT, The Trib, LAT, Boston Globe, Houston Chronicle, et al.)are crap or not crap. I think that they are crap because their importance will become very marginal in the not so distant future for two reasons:1) there are more immediate ways to access news. 2) Most major papers have lost circulation due also to the fact that they are biased and untruthful in their "reporting".

What is your opinion?

matthew wrote:Most major papers have lost circulation due also to the fact that they are biased and untruthful in their "reporting".

...and most television news channels and internet websites aren't?

NOT CRAP 2

The Baltimore Sun recently went to color!!!
Yay!!!
Now the header for each section of the paper is a bad pastel banner.
I guess that maybe they figured it would be easier for illiterate people to know which section is which by color coding it because it must be hard for all the illiterate readers of the paper to differentiate between the sports and the classified.

Christopher_Dragon wrote:...and most television news channels and internet websites aren't?.

I wasn't including televison news in this thread, but that's ok.....

The big network television news media, with the exception of Fox News Channel, is becoming obsolete too. They will either have to change or who knows what.......

matthew wrote:I wasn't including televison news in this thread, but that's ok.....

Really?

matthew wrote:1) there are more immediate ways to access news

Christopher_Dragon wrote:

matthew wrote:I wasn't including televison news in this thread, but that's ok.....

Really?

matthew wrote:1) there are more immediate ways to access news

Yes, really.....please reread the original post on this thread.

matthew wrote:The big network television news media, with the exception of Fox News Channel...

You're kidding, right?

The biggest problem with all news media at the moment is that they are not rigorous or critical in their thinking. Most "news" is a re-packaged set of "talking points" or leaks from official sources. The art of reporting -- doing legwork, finding original sources, checking and double-checking assertions, looking for un-spoken reasons for policy and action, corroborating information -- that's the part that has disappeared.

In this light, Fox News is obviously the worst of a very bad lot.

There is no reporting being done, only repeating. One could call this bias and untruthfulness, but it is a reflection of the bias and untruthfulness of the primary sources. Nothing is being done to put a check on them.

I studied journalism and briefly worked as a newspaper journalist. I had hoped to make it my profession. I am glad not to be a party to this cowardice.

matthew wrote:

Christopher_Dragon wrote:

matthew wrote:I wasn't including televison news in this thread, but that's ok.....

Really?

matthew wrote:1) there are more immediate ways to access news

Yes, really.....please reread the original post on this thread.

I think that maybe you need to reread your original post.

I thoroughly enjoy my Wall Street Journal every morning.

steve wrote:

matthew wrote:The big network television news media, with the exception of Fox News Channel...

You're kidding, right?

The biggest problem with all news media at the moment is that they are not rigorous or critical in their thinking. Most "news" is a re-packaged set of "talking points" or leaks from official sources. The art of reporting -- doing legwork, finding original sources, checking and double-checking assertions, looking for un-spoken reasons for policy and action, corroborating information -- that's the part that has disappeared.

In this light, Fox News is obviously the worst of a very bad lot.

There is no reporting being done, only repeating. One could call this bias and untruthfulness, but it is a reflection of the bias and untruthfulness of the primary sources. Nothing is being done to put a check on them.

I studied journalism and briefly worked as a newspaper journalist. I had hoped to make it my profession. I am glad not to be a party to this cowardice.

I concur with you to a degree, Steve...most journalists don't have a set of balls...


I am not kidding when I said what I said about Fox News...though TV news in general is mostly crap. I say on the contrary that Fox News is the best of the bad lot. I'm not talking about Hannity & Colmes or O'Reilly........they are blowhards in my opinion........I'm talking about the way that the news is reported, not commented upon. Fox News has the most unbiased reporting of all the network news programs on TV.







But this thread was about newspapers..........that's what I care about here in this thread[/u]

matthew wrote:But this thread was about newspapers..........that's what I care about here in this thread

This kind of proves your point about newspapers dying out?

Less than ten posts in and it's already about television.

By thirty posts (assuming it gets that far), I predict television news will have died and it will all be about internet news sites.