So I've been in the city for about six months now after finishing up at Full Sail, and I am at a loss for what to do in order to get an internship here. It seems like there is a protocol that must be passed through in order to establish a dialogue with any studio that I am either doing wrong or don't understand. After several blank phone calls and sending of resumes, I am confused as to what I should be doing to get a response. Don't confuse this as a negative outlook towards the world of audio, because I am still trying to make as many connections as possible, but I think I might be traveling through the wrong conduits. Anyways, suggestions, advice, or insight would be swell
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2jordanosaur wrote:So I've been in the city for about six months now after finishing up at Full Sail, and I am at a loss for what to do in order to get an internship here. It seems like there is a protocol that must be passed through in order to establish a dialogue with any studio that I am either doing wrong or don't understand. After several blank phone calls and sending of resumes, I am confused as to what I should be doing to get a response. Don't confuse this as a negative outlook towards the world of audio, because I am still trying to make as many connections as possible, but I think I might be traveling through the wrong conduits. Anyways, suggestions, advice, or insight would be swell
later boyz[/b]
Jordanosaur:
Don't tell anyone you've been through full sail. Go to studios and talk to people. If they like you, they'll let you be an intern there.
Don't misuse a simple English word like "your," as in your signature file. If you can't master contractions, nobody's going to let you near a microphone.
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steve
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5djanes1- www.fullsailsucks.com is an interesting read. I think every program has its shortcomings, but the fact that people went through all the effort of creating and maintaining this web page shows that there are at least some people that feel strongly about FS one way or the other.
When I was searching for my internship, I did a ton of research and made a contact sheet with all the studios' contact info. Talk to as many people as you can about recommendations & suggestions. I made sure I had a professional-looking resume (no spelling/grammatical mistakes, things roughly pertaining to audio, that sort of thing) and sent it out to all the studios, either via e-mail or fax. Then called all of them both to confirm that they received it and to see if they're accepting interns. Hopefully, this will work- if not, repeat and don't give up! And be really nice when you call and deal with studios... people generally are nicer to you then.
Good Luck
When I was searching for my internship, I did a ton of research and made a contact sheet with all the studios' contact info. Talk to as many people as you can about recommendations & suggestions. I made sure I had a professional-looking resume (no spelling/grammatical mistakes, things roughly pertaining to audio, that sort of thing) and sent it out to all the studios, either via e-mail or fax. Then called all of them both to confirm that they received it and to see if they're accepting interns. Hopefully, this will work- if not, repeat and don't give up! And be really nice when you call and deal with studios... people generally are nicer to you then.
Good Luck
Jesse
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6when i attended Columbia, teachers would blast Full Sail at any chance...from what i understand, the main criticism is that they teach you how to use the gear but do not really get into the basics (electronics, physics, acoustics) associated with engineering, leaving graduates without the knowledge to tackle situations and gear that they havent worked with before...
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andyk
djanes1 wrote:is full sail good? my cousin might go there.
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7Piezoelectric_Emu_Farm wrote:djanes1- www.fullsailsucks.com is an interesting read.
Wow. It's a very interesting read with the lawsuit info up there now.
In light of recent events...
I've had a positive experience with ONE graduate of a very expensive recording school in central Florida. I've seen many unbelieveably stupid things occur thanks to many other graduates of a very expensive recording school in central Florida.
There are many studios in this area that will (thanks to the above school's reputation, not that website) NOT accept interns from said school. In taking the risks involved in hiring any sort of intern, these studios have noticed a remarkably similar pattern in the performance of these interns and consider it a BIG waste of time. If an animal bites you, then another of the same type of animal bites you, then yet another of the same type of animal bites you, you're likely to try to avoid said animal.
Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC
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8Okay......
First of all, I would like to say that fullsailsucks.com is a creation devised by the the "problem children" of the recording school phenomenon. I learned a lot at that school, and am not ashamed that that I spent the money (a lot of money) and time on such a "trivial" education. Unfortunately a common stigma has been attached to graduates of Full Sail in particular as being lazy, incompetent, and boorish. While there is some truth to this generalization, I know for a fact that there are several other kids like myself who have made it through FS that are genuinely willing to do whatever it takes to pursue this as a career. I think a lot of people fail to realize that a studio can get burnt by anyone, regardless of whether or not they have any previous experience or background in the world of audio. I'm not going to let a bunch of whiny clown shoes dictate how grads of this school are percieved - Full Sail might not be for everybody, but the few who take the program seriously will gain a lot from it.
Later Boyz
Jordan
First of all, I would like to say that fullsailsucks.com is a creation devised by the the "problem children" of the recording school phenomenon. I learned a lot at that school, and am not ashamed that that I spent the money (a lot of money) and time on such a "trivial" education. Unfortunately a common stigma has been attached to graduates of Full Sail in particular as being lazy, incompetent, and boorish. While there is some truth to this generalization, I know for a fact that there are several other kids like myself who have made it through FS that are genuinely willing to do whatever it takes to pursue this as a career. I think a lot of people fail to realize that a studio can get burnt by anyone, regardless of whether or not they have any previous experience or background in the world of audio. I'm not going to let a bunch of whiny clown shoes dictate how grads of this school are percieved - Full Sail might not be for everybody, but the few who take the program seriously will gain a lot from it.
Later Boyz
Jordan
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9Completely true. I've just seen an EXTREMELY small percentage of graduates from that program that knew an SM57 from an NS10. I have seen both recording sessions and live gigs almost completely ruined by graduates of this school. More than once.
As I said before I know an engineer who went there who is competent. As a matter of fact, he's an excellent engineer. But, his reputation and work speaks for itself. Let your work speak for itself.
Perception IS reality and I'm just letting you know that in this area, there is a very negative perception of graduates of expensive recording schools in central Florida. From what I underestand, that perception is not entirely localized to this area. If you want to take pride in the fact that you went there and are an exception to the recent rash of generalizations, great. Just be prepared to hit a few walls.
That's why I agree with Steve. No big deal.
Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC
As I said before I know an engineer who went there who is competent. As a matter of fact, he's an excellent engineer. But, his reputation and work speaks for itself. Let your work speak for itself.
Perception IS reality and I'm just letting you know that in this area, there is a very negative perception of graduates of expensive recording schools in central Florida. From what I underestand, that perception is not entirely localized to this area. If you want to take pride in the fact that you went there and are an exception to the recent rash of generalizations, great. Just be prepared to hit a few walls.
That's why I agree with Steve. No big deal.
Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC
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10Hey Chris -
Didn't take any offense to what you wrote earlier, and I realize there is a lot of truth to the overall sentiments towards FS grads. I have definitely hit a few walls already, but I think I've made a couple dents, so it won't hurt as bad the next time.
Seeya
Jordan
Didn't take any offense to what you wrote earlier, and I realize there is a lot of truth to the overall sentiments towards FS grads. I have definitely hit a few walls already, but I think I've made a couple dents, so it won't hurt as bad the next time.
Seeya
Jordan