Psychology: Antiprocess

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I was reading about the psychological phenomenon of Antiprocess today. It's quite interesting with regards to why people can sometimes never agree. A definition is as follows:

Antiprocess is the preemptive recognition and marginalization of undesired information by the interplay of mental defense mechanisms: the subconscious compromises information that would cause cognitive dissonance. It is often used to describe a difficulty encountered when people with sharply contrasting viewpoints are attempting (and failing) to discuss a topic. In other words, when one is debating with another, there may be a baffling disconnect despite his apparent understanding of the argument. Despite the apparently sufficient understanding to formulate counter-arguments, the mind of the debater does not allow him to be swayed by that knowledge.

There are many instances on the Internet where antiprocess can be observed, but the prime location to see it is in Usenet discussion groups, where discussions tend to be highly polarized. In such debates, both sides appear to have a highly sophisticated understanding of the other position, yet neither side is swayed. As a result, the debate can continue for years without any progress being made.

Antiprocess occurs because:

1. the mind is capable of multitasking;
2. the mind has the innate capability to evaluate and select information at a preconscious level so that we are not overwhelmed with the processing requirements;
3. it is not feasible to maintain two contradictory beliefs at the same time;
4. it is not possible for people to be aware of every factor leading up to decisions they make;
5. people learn argumentatively effective but logically invalid defensive strategies (such as rhetorical fallacies); and
6. people tend to favour strategies of thinking that have served them well in the past.
7. the truth is just too unpalatable to the mind to accept.

The ramifications of these factors are that people can be engaged in a debate sincerely, yet the appearances suggests that they are not. This can lead to acrimony if neither party is aware of antiprocess and does not adjust his or her debating style accordingly.


In brief, it explains why individuals can look deliberately disingenuous, in debate, when in fact they believe they're doing their best to understand the other person's point of view--their mind is filtering out perceived threats at a preconscious level, so they are unable to process the information they're being presented with.

It makes sense as to why people often cling to seemingly untenable beliefs and positions in the face contradiction.

[url=http://www.skeptics.ca/articles/campbell-defence.html]Mental defence mechanisms and controversy
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Psychology: Antiprocess

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This happens in memory too, with greater consequences: the shaping of identity and language. What / how do we decide which events/actions/perceptions we remember and then define (in our identity narritive) as "ourselves"? Coherency with the already developed image? (Statistics) Dissonance with said image? Application of scientific/religious ideology?

What actions do we forget?

As in: "I'm not a junky. I just sometimes do heroin."
or "I'm a soldier, not a killer."

These are, of course, extreme examples. There are more common-place and practical ones, I just can't think of any right now.

"Who knows the difference between truth and illusion? Eh toots, eh houseboy?"

Psychologically, the benefits/detriments of a real event and a believable illusion of that event can be identical. (such as, in some cases, mastrubation)

This is a great thread. Thank you.

Psychology: Antiprocess

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blue wrote:I can't believe you would even suggest something so stupid. Anyone who believes in the "antiprocess" clearly hasn't thought about it clearly. Any rational person would see right through this psychobabble, and sense what utter nonsense this amounts to.


You're being sarcastic, right?

Psychology: Antiprocess

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garble wrote:This happens in memory too, with greater consequences: the shaping of identity and language. What / how do we decide which events/actions/perceptions we remember and then define (in our identity narritive) as "ourselves"? Coherency with the already developed image? (Statistics) Dissonance with said image? Application of scientific/religious ideology?

What actions do we forget?

As in: "I'm not a junky. I just sometimes do heroin."
or "I'm a soldier, not a killer."

These are, of course, extreme examples. There are more common-place and practical ones, I just can't think of any right now.

"Who knows the difference between truth and illusion? Eh toots, eh houseboy?"

Psychologically, the benefits/detriments of a real event and a believable illusion of that event can be identical. (such as, in some cases, mastrubation)

This is a great thread. Thank you.


Nietzsche thought that 'active forgetting' and selective remembering were important human faculties, as the remembrance of the past could stifle activity and development. In this regard he believed that not all experiences were necessarily beneficial. This forgetfulness is aided by the elimination or obfuscation of the anxiety-provoking manifestations--which is undoubtedly useful in order to not be completely paralysed by traumatic memories. Nietzsche also warned about to what degree one should in fact forget the past:

There is a degree of sleeplessness, of rumination, of the historical sense, which is harmful and ultimately fatal to the living thing, whether this living thing be a man or a people or a culture...[but]The unhistorical and the historical are necessary in equal measure for the health of an individual, of a people and of a culture.


And that a person should strike a balance between knowing and not knowing.

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