Al Gore

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Al Gore wrote:
The German philosopher, Jurgen Habermas, describes what has happened as "the refeudalization of the public sphere." That may sound like gobbledygook, but it's a phrase that packs a lot of meaning. The feudal system which thrived before the printing press democratized knowledge and made the idea of America thinkable, was a system in which wealth and power were intimately intertwined, and where knowledge played no mediating role whatsoever. The great mass of the people were ignorant. And their powerlessness was born of their ignorance.

It did not come as a surprise that the concentration of control over this powerful one-way medium carries with it the potential for damaging the operations of our democracy. As early as the 1920s, when the predecessor of television, radio, first debuted in the United States, there was immediate apprehension about its potential impact on democracy. One early American student of the medium wrote that if control of radio were concentrated in the hands of a few, "no nation can be free."

As a result of these fears, safeguards were enacted in the U.S. -- including the Public Interest Standard, the Equal Time Provision, and the Fairness Doctrine - though a half century later, in 1987, they were effectively repealed. And then immediately afterwards, Rush Limbaugh and other hate-mongers began to fill the airwaves.

And radio is not the only place where big changes have taken place. Television news has undergone a series of dramatic changes. The movie "Network," which won the Best Picture Oscar in 1976, was presented as a farce but was actually a prophecy. The journalism profession morphed into the news business, which became the media industry and is now completely owned by conglomerates.

The news divisions - which used to be seen as serving a public interest and were subsidized by the rest of the network - are now seen as profit centers designed to generate revenue and, more importantly, to advance the larger agenda of the corporation of which they are a small part. They have fewer reporters, fewer stories, smaller budgets, less travel, fewer bureaus, less independent judgment, more vulnerability to influence by management, and more dependence on government sources and canned public relations hand-outs. This tragedy is compounded by the ironic fact that this generation of journalists is the best trained and most highly skilled in the history of their profession. But they are usually not allowed to do the job they have been trained to do.

The present executive branch has made it a practice to try and control and intimidate news organizations: from PBS to CBS to Newsweek[. . . ] And every day they unleash squadrons of digital brownshirts to harass and hector any journalist who is critical of the President.

For these and other reasons, The US Press was recently found in a comprehensive international study to be only the 27th freest press in the world. And that too seems strange to me.


Yes I did.
But, I forgot to mention that I invented the press.

Al Gore

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One of the MANY confounding things (yes, there are many.........I think one could easily write a decent size book about the many strange facets of our former VP) about former Vice-President Gore was his rather comical and somewhat kooky condemnation of President Bush arising from his hallucinations of the latter "playing on our fears" and "lying". Yet Mr. Gore somehow overlooked the fact that he served under a president who in reality blatantly committed perjury....he's got nothing to say about that. That's pretty confounding.....and telling.

Al Gore

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By the way, the fact that he's referencing Habermas is also telling......or at least about his speechwriters if not himself.

Habermas............*shaking my head*............I guess that must make him feel "intellectual" or something..........
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Al Gore

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I guess that must make him feel "intellectual" or something


al gore is an intellectual. he is also, apparently, an intelligent man. if you're upset that he served under a president that lied that's just fine but what's wrong with referencing habermas in his speech? he's actually interested in government, i believe his degree from harvard was in government, i imagine that included reading people including habermas. it'd be nice if he could stumble through sentences and mispronounce or entirely invent words routinely in his speeches but our president has that style all wrapped up i'd say.

Al Gore

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matthew wrote:One of the MANY confounding things (yes, there are many.........I think one could easily write a decent size book about the many strange facets of our former VP) about former Vice-President Gore was his rather comical and somewhat kooky condemnation of President Bush arising from his hallucinations of the latter "playing on our fears" and "lying". Yet Mr. Gore somehow overlooked the fact that he served under a president who in reality blatantly committed perjury....he's got nothing to say about that. That's pretty confounding.....and telling.


Clinton got a blow job and stuck a Cuban up some girl's twat.
BIG FUCKIN' DEAL
At least he wasn't trying to follow in his daddy's footsteps.
Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:Shin guards for all!

Al Gore

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Gramsci wrote:Chris, I'm with out pal.

It amazes me the hard-right ideologues like Matty think lying about a blowjob is more important that telling lies that result in a lot of very dead people…

But I guess that’s what Christian values are all about, lying.


Apparently a little perjury seems to go over better with YOUR "value system" Gramsci, since lying under oath seems to not be a big deal to you. How is perjury dealt with in the Kiwi legal system? Do they just "let it go" down there? I highly doubt it.

It seems to me that you're saying we ought to simply dismiss lying under oath if the subject matter is whether or not one got a blowjob. Hell, why not make a sliding scale of "stuff-that's-really-not-important-to-be-truthful-about-while-under-oath" while we're at it? After all, why should we have let the truth get in the way of a good political agenda (in Clinton's case)?


In all seriousness, sir......you call me a lunatic and mentally ill on a regular basis and see fit to mock Christianity at every turn (which whether you realize it or not makes you look so foolish and boorish, not to mention it demonstrates you utter lack of understanding regarding the Christian faith). Generally, I'm rather dispassionate about this labeling. However after this little exchange I think something needs to be said since we're talking about a pretty fundamental, concrete thing here. Judging from what you say, telling the truth seems to not matter to you in some instances. That to me is a sign of developing lunacy. Furthermore, and I will say this for the record, if you really believe that tired mantra "Bush Lied", you are either ignorant or quite simply so immersed in anti-Bush rhetoric and hate that you fail to see reality. Yes I mean that- you are not in touch with reality. President Bush told the world what he did regarding Iraq based on intelligence, some of which was not 100% accurate. In no way did he lie or mislead ANYONE. These are pure and simple FACTS. Secondly, it really did not matter if the intelligence gathered from Iraq was 100% accurate because American policy towards Iraq was already aimed at deposing Saddam Hussein....President Clinton (in his more truthful moments) always stated such policy, as did George Bush the Elder. This is such a far cry from President Clinton's spineless perjury and word mincing that it's not even in the ballpark.

Al Gore

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Let me bring this thread back full circle.......The same concerning what I said to Gramsci applied to our friend Al Gore. His anti-Bush ranting on MLK day is proof enough that he's not in touch with reality and furthermore simply a power-hungry politician who'll sacrifice pretty much anything to gain political power. That's his point of departure........not truth, but rather tired old politics.

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