also known as schemies, townies, spides, chavs, changs, kevs, etc etc.

paradigm example:

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk

is this just an extreme example of british class culture?

totally. only here, we just call them "soccer fans".

toomanyhelicopters wrote:totally. only here, we just call them "soccer fans".

ah, no. you're thinking of "hoolies".
there's some crossover, but not all soccer fans are neds, chavvies, pikeys or pramfaces.

I haven't seen any over here that follow the fashion rules (shitty tracksuit, baseball cap, short greasy hair combed forward, etc). It's one of the reasons I enjoy living here versus across the pond.

In Dublin we called these pricks "skangers". There were fucking tons of them around my area growing up, and the number just seems to grow exponentially yearly. I hate them all. I can't walk from my parent's house to the bus stop without seeing at least a couple of gangs of them.

Their culture is pretty pathetic and sad really - get violently drunk, beat the shit out of people for no reason, watch football, get drunk again, hang around some community landmark (shop, school, etc) and intimidate people a lot.

There are plenty of people over here who do the same shit, but not to the same proportional degree as back home, nor do they look uniformly similar. It's fucking bizarre.

But seriously - "neds"? Why associate these guys with a lacklustre English indie band from 15 years ago?

man, funk all dat! y'all ain't got shit on da STUNTAZ!

http://www.icyhotstunta.com/

yeah, c'mon UK, keep wishin you had such dope motherfuckers like this up in thurrrrr!!

It seems like the closest American parallel is the backward baseball hat-wearing goateed hiphop gesturing dateraping nu-metal fuckhead. But generally speaking, this type doesn't go around in packs looking for fights as a typical way of spending his time.

I know that America is seen by Europe as a very violent country, and it is, but America is just not a big fistfight/punchup culture. I think it used to be a lot more than it is now. Comparitively speaking, it's rare in America to go out to a bar and see people get into physical altercations. It might be because everyone is afraid of getting sued, I don't know. But American violence is a lot more of the detached, cowardly, drive-by variety.

I would say our equivalent to neds would be the stereotypical frat boy, or as my friends and I like to call them chads. They aren't as violent as neds, but i bet they drink just about as much. They are also continually on the search for britney's. Unfortunately, where I live, Fort Collins, has a bunch of them hence the code word chads. There are also different levels of chads. A good example of your common chad would be many of the guys who have appeared on The Real World in the past few years. The best example though is Brad on the current real world. There is the uber-chad. This chad is extremely into himself and tries to out do all of his chad friends, especially in muscle mass. A close relative to the uber-chad is the sporty-chad. This is the former high school athletic star who tries to keep it up by dominating the intramural leagues and keeping the star quarterback swagger from high school. There is also typically a couple of smart chads. These are the ones who are responsible for getting the other ones to pass, therefore they get to hang out with them. When drunk they try to be phiolosophical to impress the britneys, and eavesdropping on these conversations is sad, depressing, and funny all at the same time. There are also pre-chads. These are high schoolers who are beginning to find their inner chadom which will blossom when they go to college. There is also the post-chad. This is the chad who has graduated, but can still be seen in the bars and clubs clinging to his chadom. For a while he is able to prey upon the young britneys, but once his looks start to go he finally settles down with an aging britney to produce their own chads and britneys.

I don't know if chads are as universal a problem in other college towns but they are pretty rampant here in Fort Collins. Although they always appear on TV shows like Real World and Road Rules and any Spring Break coverage is full of them, so i think it is a bit of a national phenomenon. The aged post-chad can be seen in every town as well. He is typically the father who is either A) jumping on his son for screwing up on the sport field B) getting pissed at the ref for calling a foul on his son or C) walking the city streets eternally depressed because he only had girls or his son(s) aren't interested in sports or becoming a chad themselves.

chads, what the fuck? The least you can do is call those people C.H.U.D.s or better yet, morons. Here they usually exclusively wear white baseball caps and shirts with the names of colleges they don't go to. Find the nearest meat-market type bar and they'll be there ready and waiting to kick your non-Dave Matthews-loving ass for having a fucking clue. they smell intelligence and seek it out with intentions to destroy.