aew wrote:Stalin's Russia, 10 million estimated.
Holocaust, 6 million estimated.
The killing fields, 4 million estimated.

(please correct me if i've fucked up the figures).

Here's where the weirdness is. 6 million Jews died in a holocaust that reportedly killed 10-14 million. All these other people were rounded up and exterminated as well. It is a little strange to see a movie or documentary on the holocaust and have it close with "dedicated to the 6 million Jews who died in the holocaust." As if the others weren't worth mentioning.
I can understand the interest in the elaborate conspiracy the Germans directed specifically to Jews. However, dead is dead. Germans also killed people living in the Soviet Union at an unfathomable rate of over 16,000 a day (for nearly 4 years), because they were Russians, Slavs, Ukies, and so on.


I will choose: Promoting a culture that demeans universal, good education.
or Swatches

if you haven't seen it already, check out Alain Resnais' Hiroshima Mon Amour. it's a very famous film and a good one too. it's a story of a postwar love affair between two people, but it also recounts the bombing of Hiroshima in vivid detail. hard to describe first thing in the morning, so here's a link:

http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release. ... tion=essay

Genocide of north american indians - largely due to collusion of european church and governments giving out pox ridden blankets deliberately. Its all in the UK records archive signed orders and all. Estimated between 10 and 40 million indians killed. Worst of all this is seen as a glorious act - how the west was won!

brizonbiovizier wrote:Genocide of north american indians - largely due to collusion of european church and governments giving out pox ridden blankets deliberately. Its all in the UK records archive signed orders and all. Estimated between 10 and 40 million indians killed. Worst of all this is seen as a glorious act - how the west was won!

You can extend this point to cover colonialism generally, and European colonialism in particular.

Happy Columbus Day, everyone!

If your people have inhabited a land for centuries and some strange lookin' fella shows up on a boat, then send out the war party immediately, people.

No good can come of it.

Mark Twain wrote:Do you like reproachful poetical indignations warmly expressed? Here is one, hot from the heart of a slave:

Man's inhumanity to man
Makes countless thousands mourn!

I think the only way to solve this is the same way we decided the best made-up band name: with a 64-contestant bracket, and daily voting. I jotted a quick list of 64 enormities, but I'm happy to take nominations.

In this thread, or by pm.

Help me put the "madness" back in "March Madness"!

I'll have to say that the Holocausts are the most heinous acts comitted by humans. There was the Jewish holocaust, the Khymer Rouge killing all those people, and then the Armenian Holocaust. When I was a wee lad, that was the only holocaust that I knew of. Me mom and dad were intent on me knowing the history of my breed. That was some disgusting shyte! The worst part about it is that the American gov't doesn't acknoledge it because they are friends with that fucking Turkey! Thats the same Turkey that supports that sex trade where they steal or forcefully lure young Russian women to those boats, take them to Istanbul (Constatinople) and sell them to these nasty "pimps". One example is this guy lost his wife to that whole thing, and when he finally found her, she was all fucked up. She went from being a pretty natural beauty to a scared, all chemical (hair dye, perms, make-up to the Nth degree) and just bitter as all hell. She eventually did herself in because she couldn't look her family in the eye. After seeing what she had been through, it was almost understandable! Sick fuckers!

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:Happy Columbus Day, everyone!

Chavez Hitlered Cortes. And said, "Long live Sitting Bull!"

Chavez is quite a fellow. He's something else. Someone to keep your eye on. An up-and-comer. Quite a fellow.

You can quote me on that.

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:If your people have inhabited a land for centuries and some strange lookin' fella shows up on a boat, then send out the war party immediately, people.

No good can come of it.

This could be twisted into xenophobia, anti-immigration, racism, etc. Joe Sixpack (an uncle of mine) could yelp about Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants.

Eksvplot wrote:the Rape of Nanking was a real low-point in human history.

Both the atrocity itself and the way their own leaders fled the city leaving the civillians to the advancing army.

I worked over there last year and the locals I spoke to are surprisingly phlegmatic about it. The just sorta shrugged and said they are a 'forgiving people'.

Plantweed wrote:

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:If your people have inhabited a land for centuries and some strange lookin' fella shows up on a boat, then send out the war party immediately, people.

No good can come of it.

This could be twisted into xenophobia, anti-immigration, racism, etc. Joe Sixpack (an uncle of mine) could yelp about Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants.

Except that Brad wrote

colonialism

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