skatingbasser wrote:

hiredgeek wrote:this mic tends to be useful for electric guitars and human voices.

Anybody else find this just a tad creepy?

you gots to hear some of the mouths i record dewd.

Mayfair wrote:

skatingbasser wrote:

hiredgeek wrote:this mic tends to be useful for electric guitars and human voices.

Anybody else find this just a tad creepy?

Not at all... the Subhumans use a different mic for their vocals.

Well Played, Sir.

e606
M201

DING!

I say go with the M160 or the 4033. I've had a lot of luck with those. And most AT mics, for that matter. I've found the AT4047 to be one of my favorite microphones for guitar amplifiers. The SM7 is great on voices and thumpy kick drums, for it has slow attack, and might not be too great on a guitar amp. Good luck.

danielruder wrote:I say go with the M160 or the 4033. I've had a lot of luck with those. And most AT mics, for that matter. I've found the AT4047 to be one of my favorite microphones for guitar amplifiers. The SM7 is great on voices and thumpy kick drums, for it has slow attack, and might not be too great on a guitar amp. Good luck.

I don't think one microphone can have a slower attack than another, short of you putting something in the audio signal's path to slow it down. You may be describing the frequency response of the mic, specifically its filtering of certain frequencies which might make it seem to not have as many transients as lets say a condenser mic.

I am not a scientist nor an expert but from my understanding of physics I believe different masses (i.e. diaphrams) will react dfferently from forces acted upon them. I find it it really hard to believe that an old ribbon will have the same transient repsonse as a super small diaphram earthworks or something of the like. Thats my two cents.

909one wrote:I am not a scientist nor an expert but from my understanding of physics I believe different masses (i.e. diaphrams) will react dfferently from forces acted upon them.

Absolutely correct.

All mcs have a different transient response. There was an AES paper with graphical comparisons of various mics.

Ribbons can actually have a very good response as some use extremely thin diaphragms / ribbons. Large diaphragm moving-coil mics are inherently going to have generally slower transient response. Frequency response is related, but should not be confused as you can have slow transient response whilst still have "good" high-frequency response.

Many thanks for all the links, tips, thoughts, ideas etc. I ended up sending sweetwater an email, and they agreed to do some overseas business. So for half the price it would have cost me from europe, I got an SM7B and an e609silver.

I decided to go for the Shure microphone as it has many good reviews on this forum alone. It will fullfill my main need for a quality vocal mic, and can be used on guitar, bass, kick, snare and toms according to fellow EA posters. The e609 looks like it will do a great job on guitar amps, and I'd be keen to read of anyone using one successfully elsewhere. It only just beat the Beyer M201, because it was cheaper.

I also picked up that boss pedal for virtually nothing this weekend, it's noisy.

Hey Rodabod,
Is there an online version of that AES paper somewhere regarding transient response?
Cheers.

I'm fairly certain every AES paper ever is available on the AES website. If you are a member, I think you can download or order hard copies for free, and if not, you must pay. Try to get the exact name of the paper and google it. People in AES tend to be generous about sharing information.