Any fans of this album on here? I've been hammering it again recently and the recording is splendid.

I love this album, especially the production on it.

The drums really sound boomy and the bass is run through a distortion petal the whole album, plus the bass playing had really taken a much more melodic role than the mostly all root playing Blue album.

I really just miss Matt Sharp in the band. I think it was all downhill for Weezer after he left.

I heard rumors that he plays keboards on the new Weezer album? I know he patched things up with Rivers.

Anyone know about this?

This is not to make fun of you for a spelling error, which can happen to anybody, but it is rather to praise you for unintentionally creating a beautiful image: "distortion petal."

Salut!

Angus Jung wrote:This is not to make fun of you for a spelling error, which can happen to anybody, but it is rather to praise you for unintentionally creating a beautiful image: "distortion petal."

Salut!

haha yes, yes it is.....it sounds like it could be the title of the next Weezer album to me, how about it Rivers?

Yeah, the production is totally fucking diamond. I believe it was all done live. The drums are some of my favourites I've ever heard, and the whole feel of the album is quite scrappy and ragged, but with an underlying tightness (of the performances) holding it together. Some of the playing is deceptively intricate. At the moment it's standing up to about 5 listens a day. The vinyl version. I just can't get bored of it.

Oh, and the whole Madame Butterfly thing gives it an interesting angle, too.

this is a terrific record. it totally stands out from the rest of their catalog. The songwriting, the sound, the production and the performance are all top notch. I dont know what these guys were thinking when they made the last two... $$$ i guess

Interestingly they produced this album themselves; the others (I think without exception, though I could be wrong) were produced by Ric Ocasek. I believe the new one is being done by Rick Rubin. I don't know where Pinkerton was recorded or who engineered it but they did a fine fkin job.

run joe, run wrote:Oh, and the whole Madame Butterfly thing gives it an interesting angle, too.

I have to agree with my friend here. Has anyone else seen Madame Butterfly? Pinkerton is very loosely based on it from what I remember seeing the opera two years ago at my highschool, but it gives it a nice edge.

The production just sounds so raw, and you can really see Rivers mature as a song writer from the first album. It also one of the only mainstream records I can think of that has had a "slowburn" in sales, rather than a traditional peak in the first few months then fizzling out after 6 months to a year. When the record first hit stores it sold almost nothing and I distinctly remember Spin or Rolling Stone giving it a half a star and calling it the worst record of that year. It was only until about a year later that people realized what an amazing record this was, and word of mouth carried record sales into Gold territory years later. This resulted in the band's Yahoo.com tour to be sold out almost instantly when they finally reformed as a band, despite not having any new material out, or even appearing in public, for about 3 or 4 years.

I could be wrong about that length of time, but I remember being amazed at how the band could be gone for so long, and then reclaim a fanbase so quickly. It was all because of Pinkerton.

rick ocasek did the blue [1] and green [3] albums. "maladroit" album #4 was produced by the band themselves. they tracked the record with rivers fronting the money behind the labels back and caused a bit of a stir when they went as far as sending the finished tracks out to radio stations themselves and received airplay all without the label even hearing the album.

at first i thought great! this record is going to be in the spirit of "pinkerton" wrong. wrong. the record is just as bad as the "green" album, which makes me think that the whole "weezer vs. geffen" was just some bullshit idea that the label probably thought of to try and win back some cred for weezer after most "old" fans saw the green album as a sell out record.

but yeah "pinkerton" is a great fucking record.