endofanera wrote:PS-- Ever heard of reductio ad absurdum? Because youre like the king.

I think copters' rank should be changed from "jerkstore" to this.



Faiz

To all of you who are saying all 'vegans are full of shit' and 'I like meat and I hate animals and they should be killed'; please remember me when your doctor tells you you have colon cancer. Just think back to those days posting on the Electrical boards.

And, yes, humans are naturally herbavores (however th fuck that's spelt), I already addressed that earlier in the thread.

-n

n.c. wrote:To all of you who are saying all 'vegans are full of shit' and 'I like meat and I hate animals and they should be killed'; please remember me when your doctor tells you you have colon cancer. Just think back to those days posting on the Electrical boards.

And, yes, humans are naturally herbavores (however th fuck that's spelt), I already addressed that earlier in the thread.

-n

Yes, and I disagreed with you with a point. I don't think vegans are full of shit, I just thought that your argument was.

I don't hate animals. I love them. They are delicious.


Faiz

n.c. wrote:And, yes, humans are naturally herbavores (however th fuck that's spelt), I already addressed that earlier in the thread.

Ahem. You addressed it, but provided no backing for your statements.

Here are two points against you:


1. Here is what a herbivore is:

Herbivore
In zoology, an herbivore is an animal that is adapted to eat primarily plants (rather than meat). Thus, while humans may choose not to eat meat, such individuals are vegetarians, not herbivores. A true herbivore, such as a cow, is unable to chew or digest meat. However, many herbivores will eat eggs and occasionally other animal protein.


2. Here is what humans are:

Omnivore

Omnivores are organisms that consume on both plants and animals.

At one time the word omnivore was used to designate the pig family.

Examples:

Mammals
many pigs
many bears
many primates (including humans)
domestic dogs
some rodents
opossums
Birds
Rails
Rhea
most Gulls


So, in conclusion, be a vegetarian or a vegan, or eat only squid or silt or sandstone or monkey breast and opossum head soup if you like.

Just please get your facts straight.

Thanks fer playin'!

Or Chimps.





Faiz

toomanyhelicopters wrote:bah, that's crap.....vegans are all "i don't eat meat" but sperm is meat, plain and simple. it's pure protein. it's as meat as you can get.

Well then, hairy legged vegan girls....step right up. I got a vasectomy over a year ago - all I've got to devour is sugars, fatty acids, salts, and water.

Segnior Geiginni = Cruelty Free Semen

endofanera wrote:PS-- Ever heard of reductio ad absurdum? Because youre like the king.

and here i thought i was the king of Parlez Estupido Al Spermio. who'da thunk it?! hrmph!!

I am in fact very well educated about my dietary choices. I've been strict vegetarian for 18+ years, my parents subscibed to Vegetarian Times magazine when the word vegetarian was unfamiliar to most people, My mom is ovo-lacto vegetarian and my father eats fish, but no 'land meat' or whatever. I'm also at work and I find really long posts really boring.

There are numerous studies that clearly draw lines between cancer and other infectious diseases and eating meat, eggs, and dairy products. Again, I'm at my job, and I don't want to be a total slack ass, so I'm not going to spend the time looking them up. I mean, I could give a shit anyways - die of cancer, be fat, have high blood pressue, have heart attacks (things that are rare - to noexistant for pure vegetarians) but whatever. I don't care about living forever either, but I'd like to live well while I'm here.

It's sort of ironic cuz it's the meat eaters that are taking the defensive stance saying 'don't tell me what to eat or what not to eat and I won't tell you what to eat', but this whole thread was started by a meat eater in order to make fun of vegetarians.

-n

Mr. Chimp wrote:A true herbivore, such as a cow, is unable to chew or digest meat.

Thank goodness modern farming has found a way around that! Cheaper burgers for ALL!

n.c. wrote:I've been strict vegetarian for 18+ years, my parents subscibed to Vegetarian Times magazine when the word vegetarian was unfamiliar to most people

Yet familiar enough to have a magazine devoted to it. What is this? Vegetarian hipsterism? Did the magazines define Herbivore in any of the issues? The argument is flawed at best that we're herbivores if not false altogether.

n.c. wrote: I'm also at work and I find really long posts really boring.

Betcha if we did a word count, your post would be just as long as Mr. Chimp's. It's no big deal if you have work to do, but don't act like the argument isn't valid because you don't have time for it. That's lazy.

n.c. wrote:There are numerous studies that clearly draw lines between cancer and other infectious diseases and eating meat, eggs, and dairy products.

Yes, and there are just as many studies that a balanced diet provides you with a better distribution of the nutrition that omnivores need to survive.
Just because one study says something doesn't mean another won't disagree with some equally substantial claims.

n.c. wrote:I could give a shit anyways - die of cancer, be fat, have high blood pressue, have heart attacks (things that are rare - to noexistant for pure vegetarians) but whatever. I don't care about living forever either, but I'd like to live well while I'm here.

I've been sick maybe twice in the past ten years and I eat meat all the time in addition to healthy doses of veggies. I actually ate rather well off of an organic (read:no chems) garden my roommie and I had grown last year and it was supplemented by the necessary proteins of meat (DNA strands, anyone?) needed to be healthy. If you look in your seventh grade science book, you'll find that out.

n.c. wrote:It's sort of ironic cuz it's the meat eaters that are taking the defensive stance saying 'don't tell me what to eat or what not to eat and I won't tell you what to eat', but this whole thread was started by a meat eater in order to make fun of vegetarians.

If we roll back the tape, you should note that I voted Not Crap. I don't see my arguments as defensive. If anything a "fine then, just die" attitude is a lot more on the defensive side. Personally I don't give a damn if you eat meat or not. I'm just tired of vegetarian sloganism passed off as facts because Mom and Dad had a magazine subscription in the seventies.


Faiz