Hello,
I have been reading interesting technics in here for a while and have tried many of them out. For example I have tried a combination of room mics on the floor and a MS config at the same time.
Since I am trying to focus on placing the right mic at the right position, I do not use any compression nor reverb and I am a bit short in advice:
How do I get to make my drum kit sounds like if I use a reverb ?
I guess it all depends on the room size and I should rely on the room and MS mic for this: I have tried to delay the room mics as adviced somewhere here, but I wonder if there are some particular tehnics thanks to the equalisation to emphasis spacialisation.
Thanks in advance for your inputs.
Alex
Spacialisation with MS and room mics
2alex,
I have also tried many different types mic technics like m/s ,spaced omni and traditional basic O/H set up
I know this is a M/S topic but maybe try spaced omni's(placed about three drum stick lengths from snare and just on the edge of crash and the ride(not right on but should be above them about 6 to 12 inches and just off of flr tom
pointed down/place a center mike(ribbon maybe a beyer 160 if you own?condenser?same distance and point towards snare)blend together ,then w/with rooms and basic kit .
Important!you could have phase problems (cancels low end out!) so best to check kick and room mics w/overheads to hear if all is well.you may have to ajust height of mics or play with the phase on console till you are in the ball park.
the best non reverb drums I have recorded had a nice live full sounding snare(tuned well!)thick kick and a guy that did not bash the drums but layed into them with the right feeling to get the best out of each drum(no eq or compression or reverb needed!) .
I know there are heads that won't be into these kind of records but the second Rage Against the Machine record was recorded in Los Angeles @ cole rehearsal(really dead rooms,not live at all!)
they used sheets of plywood around kit to make them have a natural live sound.don't get me wrong,these are not the best sounding drums ever but they did there best in a small room and got great results.
last you wont go to hell if you sneak in a little reverb under the snare for good luck
-i'm going to hell
I have also tried many different types mic technics like m/s ,spaced omni and traditional basic O/H set up
I know this is a M/S topic but maybe try spaced omni's(placed about three drum stick lengths from snare and just on the edge of crash and the ride(not right on but should be above them about 6 to 12 inches and just off of flr tom
pointed down/place a center mike(ribbon maybe a beyer 160 if you own?condenser?same distance and point towards snare)blend together ,then w/with rooms and basic kit .
Important!you could have phase problems (cancels low end out!) so best to check kick and room mics w/overheads to hear if all is well.you may have to ajust height of mics or play with the phase on console till you are in the ball park.
the best non reverb drums I have recorded had a nice live full sounding snare(tuned well!)thick kick and a guy that did not bash the drums but layed into them with the right feeling to get the best out of each drum(no eq or compression or reverb needed!) .
I know there are heads that won't be into these kind of records but the second Rage Against the Machine record was recorded in Los Angeles @ cole rehearsal(really dead rooms,not live at all!)
they used sheets of plywood around kit to make them have a natural live sound.don't get me wrong,these are not the best sounding drums ever but they did there best in a small room and got great results.
last you wont go to hell if you sneak in a little reverb under the snare for good luck
-i'm going to hell