Here are the Dems in the Senate that voted in favor of (1) allowing the President to define torture, (2) strip the court of judicial review via habeas corpus (even though the constitution does not allow you to except in cases of invasion or Rebellion), and (3) allowing the President to jail American citizens arbitrarily and without court review.
Tom Carper (Del.)
Tim Johnson (S.D.)
Mary Landrieu (La.)
Frank Lautenberg (N.J.)
Bob Menendez (N.J)
Bill Nelson (Fla.)
Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Pryor (Ark.)
Jay Rockefeller (W. Va.)
Ken Salazar (Co.)
Debbie Stabenow (Mich.)
Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
We don't need to single out the Republicans who voted for it because ALL OF THEM VOTED YES.
History will not absolve them.
Throw. Them. All. Out
Spineless Democrats who voted for Torture
3Yale professor Bruce Ackerman writes in a Los Angeles Times op-ed: "Buried in the complex Senate compromise on detainee treatment is a real shocker, reaching far beyond the legal struggles about foreign terrorist suspects in the Guantanamo Bay fortress. The compromise legislation, which is racing toward the White House, authorizes the president to seize American citizens as enemy combatants, even if they have never left the United States. And once thrown into military prison, they cannot expect a trial by their peers or any other of the normal protections of the Bill of Rights.
"This dangerous compromise not only authorizes the president to seize and hold terrorists who have fought against our troops 'during an armed conflict,' it also allows him to seize anybody who has 'purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States.' This grants the president enormous power over citizens and legal residents. They can be designated as enemy combatants if they have contributed money to a Middle Eastern charity, and they can be held indefinitely in a military prison."
"This dangerous compromise not only authorizes the president to seize and hold terrorists who have fought against our troops 'during an armed conflict,' it also allows him to seize anybody who has 'purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States.' This grants the president enormous power over citizens and legal residents. They can be designated as enemy combatants if they have contributed money to a Middle Eastern charity, and they can be held indefinitely in a military prison."
it's not the length, it's the gersch
Spineless Democrats who voted for Torture
4Let's also not forget John McCain's "compromise."
This was no time for compromise. This is not an issue that demands compromise.
If McCain really wanted to step up, he should have said
"NO TORTURE - I will not vote for anything that creates a grey area on this or gives the President, alone, king-like powers to decide what is OK."
Instead, he caved. I can't believe I once thought he had ideals.
Sell out.
EL P, thanks for the Enemies List.
-A
This was no time for compromise. This is not an issue that demands compromise.
If McCain really wanted to step up, he should have said
"NO TORTURE - I will not vote for anything that creates a grey area on this or gives the President, alone, king-like powers to decide what is OK."
Instead, he caved. I can't believe I once thought he had ideals.
Sell out.
EL P, thanks for the Enemies List.
-A
Itchy McGoo wrote:I would like to be a "shoop-shoop" girl in whatever band Alex Maiolo is in.
Spineless Democrats who voted for Torture
5El Protoolio wrote:Here are the Dems in the Senate Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
Misprint.
"That man is a head taller than me.
...That may change."
...That may change."
Spineless Democrats who voted for Torture
6skatingbasser wrote:El Protoolio wrote:Here are the Dems in the Senate Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
Misprint.
He still has a few more weeks before he becomes an "Independent Democrat," whatever that is, right?
-A
Itchy McGoo wrote:I would like to be a "shoop-shoop" girl in whatever band Alex Maiolo is in.
Spineless Democrats who voted for Torture
7alex maiolo wrote:skatingbasser wrote:El Protoolio wrote:Here are the Dems in the Senate Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
Misprint.
He still has a few more weeks before he becomes an "Independent Democrat," whatever that is, right?
-A
He'll always be "Republican" to me.
"That man is a head taller than me.
...That may change."
...That may change."
Spineless Democrats who voted for Torture
8Originally when I posted I made a distinction between Liberman and the other Democrats but 1) I didn't want to detract from my main issue and 2) really, what's the difference if they all suck Republican cock?
And for the most part, even the Democrats who voted against it are still sucking the cock. They could have made a bigger issue out of this, they could have filibustered. But they didn't. They suck. Cock. Big fucking hard cocks. Fuck you American Federal Government.
And for the most part, even the Democrats who voted against it are still sucking the cock. They could have made a bigger issue out of this, they could have filibustered. But they didn't. They suck. Cock. Big fucking hard cocks. Fuck you American Federal Government.
it's not the length, it's the gersch
Spineless Democrats who voted for Torture
9Lesson: Being tortured does not actually mean you have balls.alex maiolo wrote:Let's also not forget John McCain's "compromise."
This was no time for compromise. This is not an issue that demands compromise.
If McCain really wanted to step up, he should have said
"NO TORTURE - I will not vote for anything that creates a grey area on this or gives the President, alone, king-like powers to decide what is OK."
Instead, he caved. I can't believe I once thought he had ideals.
Sell out.
Lesson 2: Being seen as a maverick is more important than being one.
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Linus Van Pelt wrote:I subscribe to neither prong of your false dichotomy.