Cranius wrote:GWB is as contemptable as he is pathetic.
Also true
Crime of the Century: Iraq
11Also true
It takes a village to raise a child, but it takes a Viking to raze a village.
Also true
Crime of the Century: Iraq
12Cranius wrote:This is depressing beyond belief.
emmanuelle cunt wrote:it's very deprresing. makes the "iraq is a better place without saddam" rhetorics look exactly like what really are.
Instead of being depressed about it, we could get up off our asses and confront the regimes perpetrating this.
I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here - it is a legitimate option.
If we got the entire EA crowd (except Galanter, Matthew and Humphrey Bear) in on a crusade against western government implemented terror, we could probably make some waves.
Crime of the Century: Iraq
13I never really believed the invasion was meant to serve the stated purpose... instead i think they wanted to 'balkanize' Iraq. Now that it is on the cards, they may score a victory out of an otherwise public defeat and be happy with it. It may be a problem to have goals that don't match the publicly stated goals. They have to hold onto the Shi'ite populace though, which means Iran has them by the balls. Which is why invading that country is off the books. Go figure... i doubt GWB knew the difference between any of them before the war anyway....
As far as being outraged and doing something about it, i hold onto a little hope... but not much. Inspiring though is what the The Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO) have done in Mexico.
What happened in the states when the last two elections got stolen? What happened after everyone knew the Iraq thing was based on lies? And the 600,000+ dead?
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As far as being outraged and doing something about it, i hold onto a little hope... but not much. Inspiring though is what the The Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO) have done in Mexico.
What happened in the states when the last two elections got stolen? What happened after everyone knew the Iraq thing was based on lies? And the 600,000+ dead?
(oh, i'm new... hi)
Crime of the Century: Iraq
14pyaleypya wrote:.
What happened in the states when the last two elections got stolen? What happened after everyone knew the Iraq thing was based on lies? And the 600,000+ dead?
You didn't hear? We all unplugged our X Boxes, parked our SUV's, and walked off our jobs at WalMart, and then we peacefully marched to Washington and surrounded the Supreme court until they allowed the Florida recount to give Gore the 3% victory margin that the voters decided to give him. Then Gore took office, 9/11 never happened, the fake intel guys never took over the Pentagon, and all those US soldiers never died in Iraq because they were defending America instead of inciting threats to fund defense contractors.
pyaleypa wrote:
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Welcome. Thanks for paying attention to true American history like vote theft in australia- how do you like having access to free media?
Crime of the Century: Iraq
15Mazec wrote:Instead of being depressed about it, we could get up off our asses and confront the regimes perpetrating this.
Americans are terrified. If half of us walked out to the street Monday morning and found the roads empty and the trains not running and the businesses closed because the other half had begun their march to Washington, the clueless half might actually join in- they're such cowards, but if they thought that everyone was already protesting, their herd mentality would kick in and they'd be waving 'World Can't Wait' signs by sundown.
How do you get the smart half to lead the stupid half into battle? It's hopeless right now. The smart half ( somewhat ) is the wealthier half, they have more materialistic career bullshit to risk, they're ultra terrified of becoming enemies of state. The really exploited in America's economy will march if they're immigrants, but they won't if they're natives. They're not only terrified, they're enormously politically unsophisticated and can't even grasp concepts like short term sacrifice for long term gains- they live day to day, bill to bill, meal to meal.
Who will organize? The media has been stolen. The politicians all hate us to varying degrees- we're just their servants.
Look at these charts:
Look at how closely the exit polls corresponded to the posted totals in the paper ballot state, and look at how they didn't correspond in the e-vote states.
We were robbed. Rove stole two Presidential elections. Everyone in the population maintained course. We suck!.
The only hope is economic collapse ruining the slow boiling frog of globalism and corporate tyranny, and then we break out of our mental prisons.
Crime of the Century: Iraq
17Mazec wrote:Instead of being depressed about it, we could get up off our asses and confront the regimes perpetrating this.
I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here - it is a legitimate option.
If we got the entire EA crowd (except Galanter, Matthew and Humphrey Bear) in on a crusade against western government implemented terror, we could probably make some waves.
W O R D ! ! ! ! ! count me in! (if it's while i'm $tate$ide... if not, i'll be an outside agent.
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and hi pyaleypya!
Crime of the Century: Iraq
18Reading this decent short BBC article on the fears of Iraq's neighbours about the meltdown in the country, I found this delicious quote:
There is some heavy irony in that quote and the echoes therein.
On a less unreal, more depressing note:
BBC wrote:Some of them still seem to be believers in the dead dreams of four years ago.
On the flight deck of the enormous US aircraft carrier the USS Eisenhower in the Gulf this week, warplanes were being shot out of the steam catapults on the flight deck with engines that roared and screamed so loudly you felt it in your sinuses, teeth and jawbone.
"Listen to it," one of the officers told me when the warplanes were launched and streaking up the Gulf to Iraq.
"It is the sound of freedom."
There is some heavy irony in that quote and the echoes therein.
On a less unreal, more depressing note:
BBC wrote:The war has already produced the biggest movement of people in the Middle East since the Palestinian refugee crisis after the establishment of Israel in 1948.
More than a million refugees from Iraq are in Syria, around a million more in Jordan and almost two million have been displaced inside Iraq.
The war between Shia and Sunni Muslims in Iraq terrifies people.
In Saudi Arabia last month a Shia engineer told me how worried his community had been during Ashura, the annual commemoration of the death of their martyr Hussein, the grandson of the prophet Mohammed.
"It's simple," he said. "Some of the Sunnis, the extremists, regard us as infidels. We're terribly worried that what's happening in Iraq could happen here."
Crime of the Century: Iraq
19What has been so unbelievable in all this mess is that no one seems to understand the Sunni/Shi'ite split has wars dating back practically to the birth of Islam. This is not something unique to Iraq, or to this century. But the idiots that run our country seem hopelessly optimistic that they can change something. Who the hell are they, anyway?
"So this has been happening for 1300 years now. But yeah, let's have a couple more meetings. That might stop it."
Sure...
"So this has been happening for 1300 years now. But yeah, let's have a couple more meetings. That might stop it."
Sure...
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