Hey...

I have the following problem. I am currently trying to get a good distorted sound with the following setup. Fender Jaguar (Japan Reissue equipped with a Seymour Duncan SH-4 JB Humbucker) OR Epiphone SG (with the same PU) -> GAS 808 (pretty similar to TS 808) -> Orange OR 120.

I just don´t seem get a good distorted sound out of it. It is way to "thick" somehow. It´s hard to describe, it sounds kind compressed or something. I wanted to get it sound transparent and aggressive. I tried out a wide range of settings on both the pedal and the amplifier. Maybe it´s just the wrong amplifier to use with that kind of PU. I am glad for some recommendations. I get some okay results using a RAT instead of the 808, but the RAT is a little more fuzzy to my ears. I don´t want to use that one as a standard distortion pedal anymore.

I also play a Sovtek Mig 100 and it´s way easier to get good results out of that amp for that kind of sound. Thing is the Orange clean sound is so much nicer than the Sovtek´s.

Matthias wrote:Hey...

I have the following problem. I am currently trying to get a good distorted sound with the following setup. Fender Jaguar (Japan Reissue equipped with a Seymour Duncan SH-4 JB Humbucker) OR Epiphone SG (with the same PU) -> GAS 808 (pretty similar to TS 808) -> Orange OR 120.

I just don´t seem get a good distorted sound out of it. It is way to "thick" somehow. It´s hard to describe, it sounds kind compressed or something. I wanted to get it sound transparent and aggressive. I tried out a wide range of settings on both the pedal and the amplifier. Maybe it´s just the wrong amplifier to use with that kind of PU. I am glad for some recommendations. I get some okay results using a RAT instead of the 808, but the RAT is a little more fuzzy to my ears. I don´t want to use that one as a standard distortion pedal anymore.

I also play a Sovtek Mig 100 and it´s way easier to get good results out of that amp for that kind of sound. Thing is the Orange clean sound is so much nicer than the Sovtek´s.

another cab and an a/b switch?

Well, yeah i could probably do that. I don´t have the money to afford another cab at the moment, but the bigger problem is that our band usually doesn´t have enough place in the van for 3 guitar cabinets.
And you know, when i start playing two amps + cabs, the other guy will do as well

so you already have two cabs?

won't using one head/cab work? or will that not give enough volume? or i guess one belongs to another guitarist.

perhaps an EQ pedal will do what you want.

or other distortion pedals.

We have two guitarists in the band. I have two amps and one cab.
I´ll probably just try different guitars with the Orange, like a Tele or a Les Paul with 57 Classics, that don´t have that much output. I just hoped for someone to come along like: "Oh, i use quite a similar setup but with the "miraculous wonderful super stompbox" distortion pedal and it actually sounds great!"
But thanks for the advice anyway.

You only tried two different pedals and you're giving up already? Then you deserve the shitty tone you are getting. Jerk.

vance wrote:You only tried two different pedals and you're giving up already?

Actually, no. These are the two that i own. I also tried a Distortion+, a Pearl Distortion, Marshall Jackhammer(sic!), Route 66 Pedal and almost every distortion pedal that came into my hands. Liked the RAT best so far. That´s why i asked about the PU´s being the problem really.

vance wrote:Then you deserve the shitty tone you are getting. Jerk.

Thanks for the flowers, sunshine.

The Orange tends to give a very foggy thick type of tone, and the TS808 is another midrange booster, so that combination probably lacks any transparency. I'd look into a treble booster of some sort and push the input of the amp, might do the trick for you. If you use an OD pedal, look out for one that is not the typical tubescreamer type, but gives a more even response. Keep the mids low and boost the treble.

thebugman wrote:The Orange tends to give a very foggy thick type of tone, and the TS808 is another midrange booster, so that combination probably lacks any transparency. I'd look into a treble booster of some sort and push the input of the amp, might do the trick for you.

A Dallas Rangemaster clone or a simple JFET booster (google it, make it yrself for 10 bucks) might work.

Orange amps are indeed mighty thick and fuzzy in the middle. Maybe use the RAT, but roll the filter knob in the middle all the way anticlockwise.