[quote="gaetano"]but if you take in condiseration their other releases and the atrocious shows...crap."

"condiseration..."
had too many beers,sorry

suicide: not crap.

nothing like 'em.

gaetano wrote:but if you take in condiseration their other releases and the atrocious shows...crap.

i saw 'em in 2001 expecting them to be pretty lame...as they'd exclusively made bad music for the past 20 years or so...and while the music at the show was kind of cheesy, there was something completely unidnetifiable that made it one of the best shows i'd ever seen...Martin Rev just had the cheesy preset midi going and stood still arms akimbo looking "tough" and randomly hit the keyboard set to drum sounds...Alan Vega was of course screaming and running around...he rubbed my head and at the end i hi-five'ed 'em both...

of course the first album is one of the best records of all time...the second album's good but it was a fast slide into cheesy...the first album holds the weight of the rest of their career and Suicide is NOT CRAP...they could even put on a great show when by all means they should have been very very bad...

Not Crap.

Maybe not "revolutionary"...but something like that. Totally NC. Sometimes one album is enough.

I started with A Way of Life (or something like that) and wondered what the big deal was with these people. I figured it out. Not crap!