MTAR wrote:

skatingbasser wrote:Led Zeppelin drinking game frat boy

how do you play a led zeppelin drinking game? sounds fun.

Not really. Everytime he talkes about Led Zeppelin I feel like I need a drink.

thebookofkevin wrote:Where does this mean you wound up then? SAE NY?

Yessir.

skatingbasser wrote:There are a few kids who fit this "bored rich kid" title. But most there have a desire to learn and an understanding that you get out what you put in.

Well said, man.

I go to Western Michigan University, and even though they don't offer audio engineering as a major, they have a really great program there. Our instructor is super knowledgable, and has plenty of excperience, and does a really great job about teaching about all aspects of being an engineer (including how to make people like you). I honestly wonder how much more I could learn at another school, because he is so thourough. After all, it really is about just spending time on sessions. If you want to get a degree in something else and still learn a hell of a lot about audio, and get a lot of quality experience in the studio, I highly reccomend coming to Western.

So here's another question...

Would it be pointless to get some kind of master's in music technology/recording arts after a BSEE? Or would an MSEE make more sense? Basically I want to work in design for audio electronics manufacturers, but they seem to think I'm not audio-y enough. But if I got a music tech master's, would they think I'm not EE-y enough? They probably would. They suck.

I attended SAE in Solna, Sweden and I can agree that I would like to have had more studio time and that some topics get way too much attention, such as time code formats, noise reduction, CD manufacturing, etc. Sure, they should cover everything (though I feel the manufacturing process of CD's is a complete waste of time), but the diploma is 1 year and that year needs to be spent a bit better.
Though I must say they have some excellent teachers, and basically everyone who works there is just great to deal with.

I have been a freelance engineer for 15+ years now and up till about 7 years ago never knew there was schools for this!!! UNTIL I moved to Orlando Fl , here I could not even go around the corner without running into the next big producer. I teach some classes at Fullsail, ARTI. and I have been to SAE to speak. Here is the down-low, You only get what you put into something! I don't care where you learn. Hell I never went to school and i'm doing just fine and pay rent and i'm having the time of my life. The problem I think is most KIDs nowadays spend more time bitching than they do listening. The only advice you are going to get from this forum is from people propping there school cause thats where they went, which I don't see any problem with. If you really want to do this , you can do it no matter where you go!!! Hope to see you out there making records!!!! TAPE RULES!!!

Not relevant to the OP since 2 yrs have passed, but I was always put off SAE from their dumb adverts.

Some kid asleep on a couch, with a tagline that read something like, "Jake gets some sleep after a 12hr mixing and 14hr mastering session with only 2hrs sleep inbetween".

That might sound awesome to some young kid who doesn't know anything yet, but that mix is gonna sound like shit.

My first ever post was sort of about this.
After two years at IPR in Minneapolis, I can say that I feel the education was top notch, but placement has been a pain. The staff is more or less comprised of Minneapolis locals who've made names for themselves in the scene and they're all very friendly and smart, especially within the engineering program, but they (the whole staff) tell you right off the bat that you're not guaranteed a job. Placement regularly decides to send me updates with job leads that would take me to LA, NY, or Nashville, none of which are markets I feel a desire to go to or where I would particularly excel. Having graduated five months ago, I'm already feeling as though I should have gone for a degree in botany or some other usable/marketable skill. I'm also aware that this is the attitude of most college grads: "Fuck, I graduated. Now what?" I'd say this school is fine, and I have no frame of reference for the others you mentioned other than Full Sail, to whom I applied and then reconsidered.
Picking schools can be a major pain in the ass, I wish you the best of luck. I also recommend looking into internet design over audio engineering. There's always a need for internet design, and that can pay your bills while a friend of a friend can take you under the wing and give you an equivalent (and cheaper) education.
Take this with a grain of salt, it's coming from a grizzled little bastard with a shit job.[/url]