TobiasTheCommie wrote:
I will agree to signing one that says "The cause of autism is mostly but not totally, determined". Will you?

No, because it's a lie. There is no such thing as a partial determination. Until the cause is determined, we don't know if we are close to or far from a determination of cause. It's not like a drive down the road from point A to point B, where we can see point B off in the distance. If we knew what constituted 'point B' in the world of autism, we would be there.

TobiasTheCommie wrote:By the way, i added your latest insult to the list.

Big deal. Everyone here has one of those lists.

clocker bob wrote:

TobiasTheCommie wrote:
I will agree to signing one that says "The cause of autism is mostly but not totally, determined". Will you?

No, because it's a lie. There is no such thing as a partial determination. Until the cause is determined, we don't know if we are close to or far from a determination of cause. It's not like a drive down the road from point A to point B, where we can see point B off in the distance. If we knew what constituted 'point B' in the world of autism, we would be there.

OK, what about this

"We know some, but not all, of the causes of autism". Is that ok with you? i will agree to sign that.

TobiasTheCommie wrote:That wasn't a lie, it was hyperbole,

Stop being a liar *and* stop being an hyperbolist.

clocker bob wrote:

TobiasTheCommie wrote:By the way, i added your latest insult to the list.

Big deal. Everyone here has one of those lists.

And yet you keep acting so childishly.. Why is that?

Do you want to talk about it? because you would get a lot further in your arguments if you didn't get people to make those lists.

clocker bob wrote:

TobiasTheCommie wrote:That wasn't a lie, it was hyperbole,

Stop being a liar *and* stop being an hyperbolist.

Fine, you stop being a liar, and you stop being an hyperbolist. You have to realize that you did both of those before i did.

TobiasTheCommie wrote:
"We know some, but not all, of the causes of autism". Is that ok with you? i will agree to sign that.

No, because it is not supported by the current medical literature.

The causes and etiology of autism are an area of debate and controversy. There is as yet no consensus, and researchers are studying a wide range of possible causes.

Not only do we not have a definitive single cause of autism, we do not have a definitive list of potential causes.

The only correct statement is mine. I will modify it slightly:

"The cause ( or causes ) of autism is not determined."

Your refusal to sign this accurate statement shows how biased you are.

TobiasTheCommie wrote:

clocker bob wrote:
Stop being a liar *and* stop being an hyperbolist.

Fine, you stop being a liar, and you stop being an hyperbolist. You have to realize that you did both of those before i did.

No. Number one, I was here first, and number two, I'm not interested in sparing the feelings of a liar and a hyperbolist. You have the options everyone here has- ignore me, or contact the moderators and demand my expulsion.

clocker bob wrote:

TobiasTheCommie wrote:
"We know some, but not all, of the causes of autism". Is that ok with you? i will agree to sign that.

No, because it is not supported by the current medical literature.

The causes and etiology of autism are an area of debate and controversy. There is as yet no consensus, and researchers are studying a wide range of possible causes.

Not only do we not have a definitive single cause of autism, we do not have a definitive list of potential causes.

The only correct statement is mine. I will modify it slightly:

"The cause ( or causes ) of autism is not determined."

Your refusal to sign this accurate statement shows how biased you are.

That is a lie. I have shown that we have a consensus on at least one cause of autism, and a proven causation in another, though the specifics are still unknown. If my proof is wrong, please show me how it is wrong.

clocker bob wrote:

TobiasTheCommie wrote:

clocker bob wrote:
Stop being a liar *and* stop being an hyperbolist.

Fine, you stop being a liar, and you stop being an hyperbolist. You have to realize that you did both of those before i did.

No. Number one, I was here first, and number two, I'm not interested in sparing the feelings of a liar and a hyperbolist. You have the options everyone here has- ignore me, or contact the moderators and demand my expulsion.

But i don't want either of those. What i do want is for you to provide evidence that i work, or have received money from, the pharm companies, or an apology for the claim.

Also, you never answered the enemy thing. Do you want us to be enemies? because i have no interest in that.