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issie wrote:pc has nuttin to with it you stupid fucking asshole. if you were standing next to me on the street and used the word nigger, faggot, cunt, whatever in a derogatory self gratifying manner id give one chance to apologize and have a conversation. next time id break your face. and not like hey we are about to have a fight. like you would never see it coming and and when you came back to life you would forever think twice about using language that seriously threatens and fucks up peoples life. language is the real deal. ruins peoples lives all the time. and while its all fun and games posting to some internet board and trying to act smart and tough and cool by being and asshole (wait isnt that the same behaviour these kids are exhibiting?) this shit is actually really important to think about. i know we can all sit back and be privledged oblivious snots all day long thinking were great and it must suck to not have so much social power and safety but its a loosing proposition. we get choices right? we do whats best for us and end shriveled sacks of self loathing misery (underneath the confident posture i mean) or we actually try (and usually fail) to do the right thing. c'mon, whats so fun about trying to pretend all your emotions are big old power tripping masculine ones anyways? look, as far as the work cunt, or faggot...nigger. im totally down with them being used when culturally intergrated, but i really think although its the hip thing to do, that alot of us should consider that these words actually do real genuine harm to folks. im not whiny fucker either. thats what you librals are for. i just think some folks who post to this board shouldnt assume that we are all straight white males with big egos and everyone who isnt should embrace that languge.

bring on the hail storm. y'all seem like light weights, so aside from names and threats and dismissals id like to hear what people have to say about my drivel. apologies to those with little tolerance for bullshit.
-t


I'd suggest going back and posting on Infoshop, where you belong, you stupid twat.

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Boombats wrote:
issie wrote:pc has nuttin to with it you stupid fucking asshole....
...bring on the hail storm. y'all seem like light weights, so aside from names and threats and dismissals id like to hear what people have to say about my drivel. apologies to those with little tolerance for bullshit.
-t


Damn issie what part of Albany are you at?


I think issie left the h off the beginning of his name. As in "hissie fit"

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MrFood wrote: The Genie cannot be put back in the bottle. It's every man for himself now. Just make sure you get rich and get away.

Too bad.


and this is a pearl of wisdom in comparison to my advice? basically 'you're fucked'?? thats the summation of your advice? too bad?

fucking defeatist bullshit. a few scumbags are threatening him in his own area and you're advising him not to antagonise them? so i suppose one could fight back (taking my tongue in cheek but excellent advice or not) or one could bemoan the loss of traditional working class values, the erosion of societal cohesion under the reign of Margaret Thatcher and sit watching old episodes of the waltons and cheers longing for that place where everybody knows your name. be warned though if you choose the latter option you are more than likely going to receive many many more beatings.

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Heeby Jeeby wrote:
MrFood wrote: The Genie cannot be put back in the bottle. It's every man for himself now. Just make sure you get rich and get away.

Too bad.


and this is a pearl of wisdom in comparison to my advice? basically 'you're fucked'?? thats the summation of your advice? too bad?

fucking defeatist bullshit. a few scumbags are threatening him in his own area and you're advising him not to antagonise them? so i suppose one could fight back (taking my tongue in cheek but excellent advice or not) or one could bemoan the loss of traditional working class values, the erosion of societal cohesion under the reign of Margaret Thatcher and sit watching old episodes of the waltons and cheers longing for that place where everybody knows your name. be warned though if you choose the latter option you are more than likely going to receive many many more beatings.


how is antagonising them going to change anything? reacting will only please them. they're bored and yes, food is right, they are a result of the way thatcher fuking ruined this country and tore apart self respect and values for everyone who had ever worked hard for the greater good and whathave you. the politics of 20 years ago very much affects society now, wherever you are.
Tom wrote: I remember going in the back and seeing him headbanging to Big Black. He looked like he was raping the air- really. He had this look on his face like, "yeah air... you know you want it.".

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Kind of relevant, I thought. This is fucked up.

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Beating victims plan to fight back

By Johnathon E. Briggs, Ray Quintanilla and Emma Graves Fitzsimmons

Tribune staff reporters

Published March 15, 2007, 10:00 PM CDT

Two days after they were beaten in a city park as they tried to help a girl who was under attack, Edward White and his wife, Angelique Denwiddie, are determined to move back to Chicago.

White, a native of the North Side, said Thursday that he wants to return to the city to help youths find jobs and stay out of trouble.

"It's time. I want to be a part of the community. I want to keep it strong," said White, 38, who has lived in Skokie with this wife and children for four years.

Seeking better schools for their children, he and his wife moved to the suburb after a decade in the Edgewater neighborhood

Recently, the independent filmmaker had been dropping in on his old stomping grounds, saying hello to former neighbors and hanging out at Emmerson Park, where he said he always felt safe.

But White and Denwiddie said they were beaten in the park Tuesday when they came to the aid of a teenage girl who was being attacked by a group of young people. White had brought his family with him when he went to play at his old neighborhood park.

"When my wife told them to stop, she knew she was going to have to defend this girl with her life," said White. "She ended up taking punches to her face and ribs."

White then confronted the groupand was hit about 30 times in the head, he said. He still has large bruises across his forehead.

On Thursday, Ald. Bernard Stone (50th) called for increased police presence in the park at 1820 W. Granville Ave.

"While the 50th Ward has made great strides in reducing crime and promoting safety, more remains to be done," Stone said. "We have to step up our police presence in Emmerson Park."

Police responded by sending a special unit to patrol the park, said Bruce Rottner, the Rogers Park District police commander. The beating was an isolated incident and does not reflect a broader crime trend in the neighborhood, Rottner said at a news conference held by Stone, who faces a runoff election in April.

Two police cars and Park District security were at the park Thursday evening. The park, which has basketball and tennis courts and a playground, is in a diverse residential area with Indian and Ethiopian restaurants nearby.

White said he was angry that the alderman and police stopped short of pushing for cameras to be installed in the park. "I got 30 blows to the head, and I want action," he said.

His wife said officials argued that there was no money in the budget for cameras.

"We have money for the Olympics, but we can't get cameras in a low-income neighborhood where kids are getting mauled?" she said. "I'm disappointed."

The pair spoke with the alderman's opponent, Naisy Dolar, who staged a protest outside of Stone's news conference with about a dozen supporters holding signs reading, "Bad for the 50th: Unsafe Parks."

"Ald. Stone has continued to deny that crime in the 50th Ward is a problem," Dolar said. "We need to provide alternatives for our youth, and we need to make sure our police get the support and resources they need so that we can work toward crime prevention and not crime reaction."

Police said the beating occurred Tuesday after words were exchanged between a 15-year-old girl and a group of youths gathered at the park on an unusually warm day. A few moments later, three males and a female began beating the girl on the park grounds, authorities said.

Police arrived at about 6:30 p.m. and arrested four juveniles. Three of the juveniles were charged with battery, police said. The fourth is a 17-year-old male who was charged with assault, authorities added.

Police said each of the attackers has been released from custody, pending a court date.

White and his wife recalled the incident differently.

White said he was enjoying a pickup game of basketball about 5:30 p.m., when a group of teenage boys and girls—five- to 10-people deep in some spots—approached the park from a hill to the east, screaming about attacking a 15-year-old girl.

The group surrounded her on the sidewalk and began to pummel her with fists and legs, ripping her clothes, pulling her hair and dragging her into the street. The group, which White said was made up of about 20 boys and 15 girls, threw the girl against parked cars.

"I felt like I was in a Third World country," said Denwiddie, a secretary at a downtown legal firm. "The disrespect for life was amazing."

Denwiddie said she dialed 911, but after several minutes passed, she rushed to the girl's aid.

Enduring punches, Denwiddie reached into the group, pulled the girl behind her and backed up against a nearby brick wall, telling the girl and her sister to flee.

"I can't believe you did this. You are all crazy," Denwiddie said she reprimanded the teens. Her remarks, she said, provoked an attack. "They were coming from everywhere. I was pulling them off my back."

With his wife in distress, White said he distracted the group by calling them "punks." They rushed him and began beating him in the face.

White said he is dismayed that only a fraction of the youths involved in the attack were arrested, given that the Rogers Park District police station is just five blocks from the park.

"How did 35 people pounce on three people and only four arrests are made?" White asked.

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i bolded the tongue in cheek part for a reason. if you actually read my post the advice is at the end. stand your ground. don't back down etc etc. its all well and good investigating the societal ills that have bred these little fucks but it doesn't exactly do much good to the guy thats being harassed by them. what is your actual advice for him?

also if you'd care to read back on other people's posts in this thread there have been some more violent methods suggested in dealing with these lads. jaysus.

again...tongue in cheek but the rest of my advice stands. if you want to criticise my actual advice work away but please tell us your solution instead of offering criticism of mine.

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