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72 by daniel robert chapman_Archive
I thought of this thread reading this today. The part describing the gang hitting windows before chasing 'Kizzle Sweet-thug' reminded me of an incident in a street I used to live on, when a group of kids about thirteen years old ran up the middle of the street smashing car windows, then knocked a guy off his little metal scooter, hit him round the head with it, then threw it through the windscreen of a car. Then they pegged it. No reason, no cause, just something to do of an afternoon...

The BBC wrote: BBC NEWS
Tributes paid to stabbed teenager
Teachers and friends have paid tribute to Kodjo Yenga, the 16-year-old stabbed to death on Wednesday in west London.

Paul O'Shea, principal of St Charles Catholic Sixth Form College where Kodjo was a student, called him "a friendly, gentle and peaceful young man".

Messages posted on Kodjo's personal webpage said that he would be "dearly missed" and would "never be forgotten".

Seven people, aged 13 to 21, have been arrested and are being questioned at separate west London police stations.

Kodjo, of Portland Road, Notting Hill, was stabbed in the heart during an attack in Hammersmith Grove on Wednesday evening.

Flowers and candles have been left at a makeshift shrine near the row of shops where he was stabbed.

'Able student'

According to Mr O'Shea, Kodjo was "an able student... who was regarded with great affection by his fellow students and his teachers".

"He was a credit to his mother and wider family, to whom all the students and staff at St Charles College offer their heart-felt condolences."

Those sentiments have been echoed by users of the Bebo website, on which Kodjo had a webpage under the nickname Kizzle Sweet-thug.

"I love u bruva," reads one posting, while another describes him as a "fallen soulja" who was "loved dearly".

Police said the area was busy at the time of the stabbing and have appealed for witnesses to come forward.

Det Ch Insp Tony Nash said: "We know there would have been a lot of people in the area at the time of the murder and I would urge anyone who saw what happened, or who has any other information about those responsible, to come forward to police."

'Appalling murder'

One eyewitness described seeing the teenager being chased by a gang who were throwing sticks and shouting.

Another resident said she heard that the gang had been hitting the windows of a local shop before chasing the victim up the street.

Local MP Greg Hands said he was "very upset at this appalling murder".

"This was a horrific attack in daylight in a relatively busy street and will send shock waves through the community. My sympathy goes out to the family of the victim."

Four 13-year-old boys are among those being questioned.
Published: 2007/03/16 15:03:04 GMT

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Dealing With Youths

76 by lemur68_Archive
issie wrote:if you were standing next to me on the street and used the word nigger, faggot, cunt, whatever in a derogatory self gratifying manner id give one chance to apologize and have a conversation. next time id break your face. and not like hey we are about to have a fight.

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its all fun and games posting to some internet board and trying to act smart and tough and cool by being and asshole

Dealing With Youths

78 by daniel robert chapman_Archive
rashiedgarrison wrote:
daniel robert chapman wrote:
The BBC wrote: BBC NEWS

Kizzle Sweet-thug.

"fallen soulja"

© BBC MMVII


Such fucking bollocks.

"Thug". So nice!

"Soulja". In what fucking war, exactly?

I hate these shits who walk around with their fucking arses hanging out of their tracksuit bottoms. Cunts, the lot of them.


What struck me with this - well, okay, Kodjo calls himself 'Kizzle Sweet-thug'. Yet everyone has described him as gentle, peaceful, a credit to his school. Okay, they weren't going to call him a twat. But he was studying business, French, design and IT at A-Level - an interesting mix. And a gang of kids chased and killed him for no apparent reason.

I think what I'm getting at is: when the kids that are getting bullied/beaten/killed - the nice kids, the sensitive kids, say - are calling themselves 'Kizzle Sweet-thug' and presumably adopting an attitude to suit - ah, I don't know, I can't really close in on my point here, I guess I just mean: I'm glad I left school in 1998. Britain seems to have become a much tougher place to be a kid.
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79 by the$inmusicisallmine_Archive
punk wrote:Why do Americans have such issues with name calling and nasty words?
Most other countries I've experienced are pretty at ease about words when used in any context and can wipe away hurt feelings and shit with a quick "fuck off" .

In my opinion the U.S. as a whole seems to be stuck in this "words are more powerful than you realize" bullshit and i think most of you are kinda just raised with that line of thinking and just take it on without stepping back and saying to yourself am i really offended? or am i acting offended as thats what I'm supposed to act.

Americans love morality.
especially when they feel they have it over another.


don't generalize about Americans, ya daft 'strine cunt.

there are a whole shit-ton continent full of us, and we don't all think alike.

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80 by chris jury_Archive
I deal with kids all day, every day. It's my job.

First off, having lived in the lovely UK, I can assure you, you have the most ill-manered children on the planet. I remember small groups of kids wandering around, throwing rocks, calling people names, taking swings at folks just walking by. Most of that behavior stems from there not being any real consequence to their actions. Ignoring it, saying "there's nothing you can do" is what has caused this problem in the first place. We have similar problem in some of our more economically depressed areas, where parenting has become a lost art and ther aren't social services to pick up the slack.

First step: install consequences. These don't need to be violent, but they do need to be real, unpleasant and quick (the police showing up 2 weeks later doesn't 'connect the dots' in and adolescent mind). In Sunderland I often would just grab them by the arm and explain that if it continued they'd be on their way to hospital. use your own judgment on this sort of thing...Because, like when training a dog, you have to win and you cannot back down once you step up.

Second Step: Get to know their parents, or school administators (school outfits work well for ident., especially with afternoon troublemakers). Take pictures or video for clear identification, because parents/masters rarely believe a stranger over ther own little darlings. and keep notes, so that you can give them specifics. Mention the Police to mom and dad and Newspapers (and racial prejudice) to the admins.

Third step: make sure the youth understand that the community welcomes them after their behavior is sorted out. Alienation drives this engine as much as anything else.

-chris
No one is paying you to sit on that bed and cry.
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