Gramsci wrote:Although I don't listen to them they get a "Not Crap" from me, with a huge WF.

Reason: In a similar way to Green Day, they are a potential "Gateway Band", i.e. they could lead to some mall-rat moving on to better and more interesting things.

I could buy this view. My friend once did a project for a company he worked for about how they could market to teenagers. He interviewed a load of kids hanging around in town. Two kids stood out in the film: wearing metal gear and about fourteen years old, they were asked what they didn't like:

"The system!"
"Yeah, we're like, against the system, and that."
"We totally don't like the system, like - "
"SMASH THE SYSTEM!"

~pause~

"We like System Of A Down though."
"Yeah, System Of A Down, that's system's cool."

Crap, that just there was my waffle.

decent singles. draggy, filler-full albums. several of their songs would be enjoyable were it not for the sub-prepubescent lyrics...

"Gonorrhea gorgonzola
Gonorrhea gorgonzola
Single files of clean feedings"

"Everybody, everybody, everybody livin' now.
Everybody, everybody, everybody fucks.
Everybody, everybody, everybody livin' now.
Everybody, everybody, everybody sucks.

Everybody, everybody, everybody livin' now.
Everybody, everybody, everybody cries
Everybody, everybody, everybody livin' now.
Everybody, everybody, everybody dies.

It's a non-stop disco
Bet you it's Nabisco,
Bet you didn't know."


crap, but i like the singles.

Wow. I'd like to take the opportunity to refer the above lyrics to this thread.

All research and successful drug policy shows that treatment should be increased and law enforcement decreased while abolishing mandatory minimum sentences.

Try turning that into a hook-line.

Crap with some waffles for the above.

I liked them better when they were called Biohazard.

Total ruthless, shameless, soul-sucking, unabashed rip-off crap.

not great, but not crap either.

the_rekoner wrote:wasn't much into them until i saw them live. they were pretty fuckin good they all have pretty good voices too

That was how I felt. I couldn't care less about them and then someone dragged me to a show, and I saw the light. I'm a big fan now...

Quiet crap, loud crap, quiet crap.

CRAP.

crap.