caix wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:I've never been to a gay bar (too young) but instinct tells me that it would be no different from any other bar.

it's very different. different type of culture thrives there. it would be different first and foremost for the fact that you may be hit on by other guys. that is a very odd experience for a straight guy.

I'm used to being hit on by gay guys at this point. I wish I could say I was used to getting hit on by straight girls instead, but I take a compliment when it's offered to me.

sunlore wrote:

tommydski wrote:So you got a girl's attention for the whole night and you have a great time. Seriously, how could it go wrong? There's a bar there and you can dance your ass off all night. Perfect!

Yes, tommydski, this is an excellent idea. How could it go wrong? I mean, it's not like she will be surrounded by hordes of sissies in no time, chatting amusedly and taking complements about her gorgeous footwear and fabulous jewelry "oh my god, thank you" while you stare into your drink for the rest of the night trying to avoid the craving look of the fat guy with the receding hairline on the other side of the bar.

No really, an excellent idea.

Really. Goddamnit.

You have an odd image of homosexuals, Sir.

Also, I can think of five occasions where this worked and nothing of this sort ever happened. I mean, I'm sure you could fuck it up if you really tried hard but it's a pretty sound plan based on personal experience.

H-GM wrote:

Ty Webb wrote:Gay guys are way, way more persistent and clumsy in their pickup attempts than straight guys. And they have a much harder time taking "no" for an answer. Ladies, count yourselves lucky.

Straight men are just as steadfast in their attempts for no-strings sex, save for the unattractive ones. And as for clumsy nothing could be further than the truth. Breeders fall all over themselves trying to be subtle in their desire to bed an attractive woman, with two gay men there are no pretenses.

I think the main difference is, persistent straight guys think "well she's straight, so she likes dick, and I have a dick!" They don't get that liking dick doesn't mean she wants his. On the queer side, the gay man hitting on the straight boy is denying both the sexual preference and the personal preference, like "you are both gay AND attracted to me!" It's a double denial, as opposed to the straight guy's single denial. Unless the girl is also a lesbian.

I don't know how many times guys have said shit like "so, what do you want?" after I told them for the third time what my girlfriend is studying in school*. Of course, I should probably not wander into places called the Hole In The Wall...

ChristopherM wrote:

Boombats wrote:Later I find out the joint's called The Hole In The Wall...I realize I can't stand in a gay bar and say "gimme a shot of Old Granddad" without laughing my ass off.

First off...I know this place, and there's no effin way that you didn't know that it was a gay bar before you went inside.

I swear- it was almost empty, dark out, and I didn't see the rainbow flag hanging outside!




*I definitely have never felt like a chick that was coming on to me was turned off after I mentioned that I have a girlfriend, whereas I have definitely cooled my jets when talking to a lady and she mentions her man.

night_tools wrote:so I basically talked his ear off for about an hour, much to the amusement of my friends, and presumably his friends, who all thought that some bumming was in the offing.

What, wait...
So you were going to go out on the street to ask strangers for money together?
I don't get it.

Damn our common language!

-A

Rodabod wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:I've never been to a gay bar (too young) but instinct tells me that it would be no different from any other bar.

Apart from the fact that if you drop your hat, you must kick it all the way to the door.

Yeah, because them quars will poke you rahhhht through yer pants!


-A

I love that so many people were drawn to the headline "A poll for Straight Guys"

tommydski wrote:You have an odd image of homosexuals, Sir.

Yes, and I was being entirely serious with that post.

Unfortunately, Tom boy, your trick wouldn't work with my lady friend. She likes the strip joints -fahging chauvinist pig.

Laura Bush's Bush wrote:I love that so many people were drawn to the headline "A poll for Straight Guys"

Only way it would have caught more is if it said "A Pole For Straight Guys"

sunlore wrote:

tommydski wrote:You have an odd image of homosexuals, Sir.

Yes, and I was being entirely serious with that post.

Unfortunately, Tom boy, your trick wouldn't work with my lady friend. She likes the strip joints -fahging chauvinist pig.

Like female strippers or male strippers? Just wondering what you have to suffer through.

Boombats wrote:

sunlore wrote:

tommydski wrote:You have an odd image of homosexuals, Sir.

Yes, and I was being entirely serious with that post.

Unfortunately, Tom boy, your trick wouldn't work with my lady friend. She likes the strip joints -fahging chauvinist pig.

Like female strippers or male strippers? Just wondering what you have to suffer through.

Females, for all I know. She took me to one on one of our first dates -I'd never been.

"Suffering" is relative.

hellyes!! wrote:

steve wrote:In the early punk rock period, punk rock abided weirdos, and queers were weirdos, so pretty much all early punk rock experiences had a queer element to them. Straight bars didn't like the punk crowd, but gay bars liked flamboyance of any kind. There was a significant sharing of resources (if not record collections) between the gay scene and the punk scene between 1976 and 1984, say. I know most of the shows I went to in the early 1980s had either the brunt or the vestiges of the queer involvement apparent.

So, if you were into punk rock in the late 70s-early 80s, you spent at least a little time in gay bars. Gay or not-gay.

Interesting. This probably explains, at least in part, why my gay uncle had such a diverse collection of music. I bet he was picking up tips from the punks in the gay bars. It also explains how he came to be fascinated with punk culture particularly in the UK.

Absolutely true. I would guess that 10 to 20 percent of the people involved in the early days was gay or bi. It's where I 1st met gay friends. A lot of the early punk bands had at least one gay person in them, such as Wire, Chelsea, Dead Boys, Screamers, Germs, a lot of the New York punk bands, etc.

O'Banion's in Chicago, during the day, operated as a gay bar. The manager, Everett, was gay.

I could go on and on. I never really understood why someone who was homophobic became a punk, when there was so much gay influence in the scene.