I feel better after venting some of my murderous rage.

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Well said.

that was one of the most hateful things i've ever read. everyone is allowed differences in opinion on what is important in this world, but to paint them with such a broad stroke and then wish death, rape, and torture upon them is sick.

you are an asshole.

come on kids, play nice or dont play at all.

yeah, grow up dude

You certainly have the right to vent, but consider the damage that it does. Perhaps there is a more constructive way to express yourself.

thank you, that was the more toned down version of what i was trying to say.

While I don't wish death on any of those single-issue voters, I understand the feelings that inspired the rant. In precisely the same way, I don't wish death on anyone, not even a convicted murderer, but I understand the feelings that underpin the death penalty.

I do not want to live in the America I see unfolding in front of me, which has been solidified in tone with a stroke by the evangelicals.

I know some Christians that I can respect. Right now, I don't want to look any of them in the face, because they truly believe that their moral positions on trivial issues (who gets to marry who, or whether this clump of cells is a person or a clump of cells, or whether their origin myth should assume the status of a branch of science) are more important than the undeniable killing and suffering of real people (with lives and families) caused by our administration.

They really think that trivial shit matters. They think it is more important than warfare or death or institutionalized cruelty on a scale we have never before imagined.

I don't want to hate them, but they have changed my country -- a country I love, and I have never said that before in those words -- into a country where I see no place for me.

I used to be puzzled with wonder at how post-Weimar Germany could have slipped into a self-absorbed, isolationist, reactionary, ours-is-the-will-of-God fascist state. Yesterday, I realized it starts like this: With a growing pool of self-reinforcing zealots "voting their conscience" in reaction to a perceived lapse into Godless degeneracy, and that body of voters being exploited by a single-minded political party intent on ruthlessly consolidating its power.

See the thing is; we're not upset because 'our side' lost. This is not a sports game. We are upset because America had a choice to come together, to unite. There are not going to stop being gay people. Abortions are not going to stop just because they become illegal.

We (liberals) are not trying to stop christians from beleiving in God or whatever the fuck they want to believe. But they (Republicans, right-wingers) DO want to infringe on OUR freedoms and the freedoms of others.

The choice was can we all live together and accept that we are different, or do we want to try and push one set of morals on everyone? Do we care about each other, or do we care about ourselves?

You can call it hatred, but the hatred is directed AT HATRED.

I am deeply saddened that our attempt to unite backfired and we are now farther divided. I am angry. I am angry because the American people chose to be decepted instead of thinking.....

Bush is irony incarnate. He pushes legislation to ease laws on pollution and he calls it the clean water act. He eases restrictions on logging and calls it the healthy forest initiative. He said the American people had to choose who they trust when he's knowingly lied to us. He preys on people who are suceptable to slogans......

I don't know. I'm sad and I'm pissed. I'm sad for all of us. If I have money for two beers, I buy myself a beer and buy one for a friend, the thinking that reelected Bush was to sit there and drink two beers in front of your friend while he has none. Am I describing communism? Can you believe in community without being a communist?

I'm fully aware of the irony that I've judged the people who voted for Bush while talking about judgement. So I'm fucking judging judgement?

Sorry for the sloppy writing and thinking in circles. I'm seriously depressed.

-n

Nice attempt at being mushy and open-minded to a fault, but the fact remains that anyone who bases their decision to vote during a time like this on gay marriage is about as useful to society as a child molestor.

Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing spiteful about wishing that the negative consequences of people's actions fall on the actor and not others. If they're voting for a candidate that will lead the country into war, they and their children should be the ones to go off and die. They should lose their jobs, not people with enough foresight to have voted differently. That's called "fair". Wishing death upon them is, of course, utterly spiteful, but it develops from the fact that their is no negotiating with these people. Politicians can't argue with God. It's the same reason that terrorists can't be negotiated with. So since we can't outnumber these devolved assholes and we can't reason with them, I would much enjoy waking up one morning and learning that they collectively died.

If they're so moral and sanctimonious, when their kids get blown to bits in Iraq they can comfort themselves by saying "Well, at least I voted my conscience against those damn gays, and thank God for my tax cut. Junior may be dead, but we got an extra $200 in our pocket last year. I think it was worth it."

it's true

JESUS H ruined this shit for everybody