Gastr del Sol:crap
Jim O'Rourke: not crap
Eno: not crap
Fripp: solo records/king crimson: crap guest spots on other peoples records: not crap
Belew: crap
Tony Visconti: not crap
!!!: crap crap crap
Wire: not crap
Jandek: not crap
Yeah Yeah Yeahs: crap
Trans Am: crap
Slits: not crap
Feelies: crap
Syd Barrett: not crap
Bjork: crap
Sebadoh: crap
Royal Trux: not crap
REM: crap
Pavement: crap
Oxes: not crap
Nick Drake: not crap
Lou Reed: not crap
Liz Phair: crap
Lauryn Hill: crap
Mozart: crap
Beethoven: crap
Chopin:crap
Shostakovich: crap
Tchaikovsky: crap
Interpol: crap
George Harrison: crap
Felt: crap
Bitch Magnet: crap
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82Patti Smith: crap
Joni Mitchell:not crap
agreed
Prince: not crap
George michael: crap
same here, with you so far
Velvet Underground: not crap
Dandy Wharols: crap
no. Velvet Underground are crap. Look at the whole trajectory of the group. They had maybe one good album and a whole mess of bad ones. Crap. Who's with me?!?
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83Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:vockins wrote:The Cars: CRAP
The Troggs: CRAP
gang of four: CRAP
Nirvana: CRAP
Rolling Stones, The: NOT CRAP
Sex Pistols, The: CRAP
DEAD C: CRAP
SMOG: CRAP
CAN: CRAP
In all of my years of playing this game, I have never seen such an insane set of answers. Wow!
Har, har. Glad I could deliver. In retrospect, nothing would change.
vockins
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84Richard Pryor:
Redd Foxx:
Steve Albini:
Eddie Murphy:
Pigmeat Markham:
Chris Rock:
Bernie Mack:
Blowfly:
Redd Foxx:
Steve Albini:
Eddie Murphy:
Pigmeat Markham:
Chris Rock:
Bernie Mack:
Blowfly:
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85>>I am puzzled as to why we would not be friends. Not only are our lists virtually identical, but, hell, you are Mr. Musical Correctness. Who am I to judge?
good point
i forgot about the pixies, who were on your original list
oh...uh...hmmm...er...crap. maybe not crap, but when someone is on the line, you have to ask yourself: do i really care if everyone thinks i think so-and-so is crap? and if the answer is no, then they are crap. so the pixies are crap. and frank black is crap without even thinking about it. the breeders are not crap.
>>The Clash give me the creeps; their music sounds culturally exploitive to me, sort of like Paul Simon in the 1980s (but with even less charm, if that's possible). Plus, dumb rock reactionaries are always fighting an uphill battle with me. And where are the hooks outside of "Train in Vain", which I quite like? To sell that brand of 70/80s left-leaning pseudo-intellectual political stridency to me, you gotta catch me with a good pop hook (see, Midnight Oil (Not Crap), R.E.M. (Not Crap) or, on certain occasions, U2 (CRAP)). So, The Clash - crap.
ok, i'm more or less w/you. their whole political angle never seemed persuasive to me, and it wouldn't have mattered if it had. the music was overly done for the most part etc. except the thing that puts the clash over the line, besides joe strummer in general, IS their hooks. i have not listened to their records so much, yet i can remember large chunks of their catalog. _london calling_ has many songs that i like and can recall easily. i find that record to be rousing in a calculated way.
i think all the other bands you mention are crap, incidentally, and i like u2 the most of any of them. but they're all sorta borderline.
>>With The Who, they're something far worse than crap; they're boring, deathly so, and that's saying something with that rhythm section. Just plain whetstone dull. So, The Who - crap. (As a sidenote, what are the three songs by The Who that you cite as being among the top 50 songs of all time?)
baba o'riley
behind blue eyes
i can't explain
i can see for miles
blue, red and grey
pictures of lily
so sad about us
the seeker
substitute
these would all be in the running in the top 150 ever, i would say, brad
'baba o'riley' is the best who song and a high achievement in my book
as i said, i do feel that the sheer amt of crap within the who catalog is stunning given the altitude of their high points
>>By the way, .38 Special had some really good moments, particularly when one performs a Jamesian era-adjustment.
while .38 special is actually crap, i enjoy several of their crap songs
good point
i forgot about the pixies, who were on your original list
oh...uh...hmmm...er...crap. maybe not crap, but when someone is on the line, you have to ask yourself: do i really care if everyone thinks i think so-and-so is crap? and if the answer is no, then they are crap. so the pixies are crap. and frank black is crap without even thinking about it. the breeders are not crap.
>>The Clash give me the creeps; their music sounds culturally exploitive to me, sort of like Paul Simon in the 1980s (but with even less charm, if that's possible). Plus, dumb rock reactionaries are always fighting an uphill battle with me. And where are the hooks outside of "Train in Vain", which I quite like? To sell that brand of 70/80s left-leaning pseudo-intellectual political stridency to me, you gotta catch me with a good pop hook (see, Midnight Oil (Not Crap), R.E.M. (Not Crap) or, on certain occasions, U2 (CRAP)). So, The Clash - crap.
ok, i'm more or less w/you. their whole political angle never seemed persuasive to me, and it wouldn't have mattered if it had. the music was overly done for the most part etc. except the thing that puts the clash over the line, besides joe strummer in general, IS their hooks. i have not listened to their records so much, yet i can remember large chunks of their catalog. _london calling_ has many songs that i like and can recall easily. i find that record to be rousing in a calculated way.
i think all the other bands you mention are crap, incidentally, and i like u2 the most of any of them. but they're all sorta borderline.
>>With The Who, they're something far worse than crap; they're boring, deathly so, and that's saying something with that rhythm section. Just plain whetstone dull. So, The Who - crap. (As a sidenote, what are the three songs by The Who that you cite as being among the top 50 songs of all time?)
baba o'riley
behind blue eyes
i can't explain
i can see for miles
blue, red and grey
pictures of lily
so sad about us
the seeker
substitute
these would all be in the running in the top 150 ever, i would say, brad
'baba o'riley' is the best who song and a high achievement in my book
as i said, i do feel that the sheer amt of crap within the who catalog is stunning given the altitude of their high points
>>By the way, .38 Special had some really good moments, particularly when one performs a Jamesian era-adjustment.
while .38 special is actually crap, i enjoy several of their crap songs
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86Tim Midgett,
Given my respect for you and your excellent taste in music, I will revisit The Who songs that you have listed with a fresh set of ears. I am not optimistic that my opinion can or will change, but I am certainly willing to revisit songs that you hold in such esteem.
I might even throw on a couple of the old Clash records (pre-Sandinista!) while I'm at it. You never know. Well, sometimes you do know, but you go ahead and do it anyway.
Perhaps I will learn something new. It is fun to learn new things.
Brad
Given my respect for you and your excellent taste in music, I will revisit The Who songs that you have listed with a fresh set of ears. I am not optimistic that my opinion can or will change, but I am certainly willing to revisit songs that you hold in such esteem.
I might even throw on a couple of the old Clash records (pre-Sandinista!) while I'm at it. You never know. Well, sometimes you do know, but you go ahead and do it anyway.
Perhaps I will learn something new. It is fun to learn new things.
Brad
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87brad
flattery will get you everywhere
i would only say that if you listen to only these who songs, and nothing else on the records from which they come, you might say to yourself, 'fuckin a, the who, they could bring it on occasion'
but if you listen to many other who songs as well, i doubt your opinion will change, either!
the clash, i don't care if you like them or not. given their rep, it is nice to see you think they are crap.
devo
psychedelic furs
public image ltd.
tm
flattery will get you everywhere
i would only say that if you listen to only these who songs, and nothing else on the records from which they come, you might say to yourself, 'fuckin a, the who, they could bring it on occasion'
but if you listen to many other who songs as well, i doubt your opinion will change, either!
the clash, i don't care if you like them or not. given their rep, it is nice to see you think they are crap.
devo
psychedelic furs
public image ltd.
tm
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88Dylan wrote:
"velvet underground are crap. They had maybe one good album and a whole mess of bad ones. Crap. Who's with me?!?"
I gotta disagree with you on this one. The guitar solo on "I heard her call my name" by itself is enough to make the velvets never, ever crap. Their music still sounds way more creative and exciting than 99% of the bands I hear nowadays. Which album do you consider to be good and which ones crap? Velvet Underground and Nico is great, White light/ white heat- great, couch album- great, loaded- not too shabby, VU and another view - released without Lou Reed's permission as I understand it, so we can't blame the band. VU has some cool tunes on it anyway. Live records-OK as live records go.
Velvet Underground: not crap
also...
Beethoven, Ludwig Van: not crap
"velvet underground are crap. They had maybe one good album and a whole mess of bad ones. Crap. Who's with me?!?"
I gotta disagree with you on this one. The guitar solo on "I heard her call my name" by itself is enough to make the velvets never, ever crap. Their music still sounds way more creative and exciting than 99% of the bands I hear nowadays. Which album do you consider to be good and which ones crap? Velvet Underground and Nico is great, White light/ white heat- great, couch album- great, loaded- not too shabby, VU and another view - released without Lou Reed's permission as I understand it, so we can't blame the band. VU has some cool tunes on it anyway. Live records-OK as live records go.
Velvet Underground: not crap
also...
Beethoven, Ludwig Van: not crap
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89Ok.. correct me if I'm wrong... I thought there was to be NO explanations, no qualifiers, no "Well, the first two records and maybe his session work on the Carpenter's 4th single", just "Crap" or "Not Crap". That's the fun part to me, agonizing over the call. Ok, maybe not agonizing <G>.
Rigidly yours,
Tony
Rigidly yours,
Tony
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90devo -crap
psychedelic furs -crap
public image ltd.-not crap
velvet underground -not crap
bad brains
minutemen
psychedelic furs -crap
public image ltd.-not crap
velvet underground -not crap
bad brains
minutemen