Just saw Wilco's Burn to Shine performance.

A CRAP band, eh? Are y'all fucking nuts? Nels Cline? Kotche? "Spiders"?

I like Jeff Tweedy's songwriting. A lot. Great singer too. In fact, I'm not even sure why I should feel embarrassed by this statement other than the fact that a large number of people on here dislike Wilco.

Dylan Posa put it best:

Dylan wrote: I really like good pop songs with a healthy dose of what-the-fuck.

NOT CRAP.

I agree whole heartedly... other then the fact that I too was sick and tired of reading the same fucking article in every magazine about YHF being a metaphor for modern whatever the fuck, the record was fantastic.

I was/am a huge fan of Jim O'Rourke, and without a doubt, YHF is one incredible example of his abilities to mix a record. I spent a long time with that album (and too much weed), and it really has a lot to teach as far as economy of arrangement and pacing. I find it hard to think of any "record", in the sense of a collection of songs that work from top to bottom as one entity, fitting that definition better then YHF in the last few years... or at least one that I enjoyed as much.

That movie was significant as well, as anybody in a band can attest to that weird, uncomfy feeling that comes with the one guy in the band being the odd man out. And again, at least for me, I sided with Jeff tweedy all the way, from Kotche coming in, to J-B going out. Jay Bennett added a lot to that record, as far as the sounds you hear on there, but to Jim O'Rourke's ultimate credit, it wasn't Jay Bennet that put the excess overdubs into a wonderful context.

So in appreciation of this bands sense of taste and feel, more then anything, I whole heartedly voice Not Crap... and that shit is worth more to me then my dislike of sandal wearers, or shotty "rock journalism".
The show they did at Radio City Music Hall In 2004 was really close to being one of my favorite concerts I have ever seen, a lot had to do with the fact that that place sounds fantastic, but they fucking delivered as well. It was like seeing a 21st century "The Band" or something. All magazine articles, and David Fricke aside.

everytime I hear or see the name wilco, I remember the hilarious sketch on beavis and butthead when butthead tells beavis to go make pancakes and he's walking around the house looking for the pan.

NOT CRAP "Dad rock"

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:NOT CRAP "Dad rock"

You have a point. Likewise, NOT CRAP.

Be glad for small mercies, though: over here, when we get Dad Rock, we get Cast and Ocean Colour Scene.

sparky wrote:

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:NOT CRAP "Dad rock"

You have a point. Likewise, NOT CRAP.

Be glad for small mercies, though: over here, when we get Dad Rock, we get Cast and Ocean Colour Scene.

You just made me remember two awful bands this group of brothers, who I knew in Baltimore, tried to convince me were great.

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:

sparky wrote:

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:NOT CRAP "Dad rock"

You have a point. Likewise, NOT CRAP.

Be glad for small mercies, though: over here, when we get Dad Rock, we get Cast and Ocean Colour Scene.

You just made me remember two awful bands this group of brothers, who I knew in Baltimore, tried to convince me were great.

I apologize. This was inappropriate material to drop on someone with so little warning.

Most of my friends at school loved these bands.

How many more times does someone have to say this before it sinks in, CRAP.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was really great in places and had problems in some areas.

I never got all the way through A Ghost Is Born. Just booooo-ring. The one song that appealed to me was "At Least That's What You Said."

I guess Crap, even though I voted Not Crap.

I do not like this Wilco.

I have tried very hard to like them.

Many respected friends like them. My wife likes them.

I don't get the intention. What are they trying to do?

They sound all over the place, but are totally forgettable. They have a song here that sounds kind of like Sonic Youth-y. Then there's one that sounds Alt country. And then there's a piano song that sounds like Indie Rock Elton John. Then there's an acoustic number. Wow, they kind of like Neil Young. Is that a Yo La Tengo riff played by Hootie and the Blowfish? Or perhaps the Eagles. However, I can't remember a single tune, hook or melody and I have sat through nearly all of their recordings.

Modest Mouse has the same effect on me.

Bryan Paulson did a fine job on engineering them too, but I just haven't found much to like. I don't blame him for not wanting to be associated with the genre-producer for this type of music, whatever it is (Alt-Indie-Eagles-Piano smeg?) I don't understand people who can be passionate about something that is so brown, dull and uninteresting.

sorry.

CRAP, no waffles.