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Name A Truly Original Artist
22NerblyBear wrote:How is he defining "original"? Because, if he simply means that no one has completely started from scratch and come up with a sound that has had no influences, he would be correct. But this has never been what folks mean by "original". To be an original musician means to take whatever influences or styles you have ingested and to bring them to fruition in a new and exciting way.
Hence, by such a definition, an "unoriginal" artist would be Jay-Z or Nickelback. An "original" artist would be Can or Jim O'Rourke.
Your bass player is a thundering backside, and I'm not sure that this thread ever needed to be created in the first place. "Thumbs down" for not realizing this.
He meant the former. You're too smart by half.
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23While that's not sonically without precedent, it certainly is pretty fucking original performancewise. 0_0
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Linus Van Pelt wrote:I subscribe to neither prong of your false dichotomy.
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24re: manring, hedges
anything sounds good (and gay) in open tunings. i ain't claiming i can do hedges type shit, wouldn't want to, but open tuning is half the battle.
anything sounds good (and gay) in open tunings. i ain't claiming i can do hedges type shit, wouldn't want to, but open tuning is half the battle.
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25No, this sounds gay.
I actually like the Manring, aside from the hideous tone of the fretted* notes. I'll never complain about shifting harmonics. The Hedges, eh, whatever, it's not even something really new technically, and it's a LOT of energy to put into sounding completely bland.
*or whatever you call it on a fretless.
I actually like the Manring, aside from the hideous tone of the fretted* notes. I'll never complain about shifting harmonics. The Hedges, eh, whatever, it's not even something really new technically, and it's a LOT of energy to put into sounding completely bland.
*or whatever you call it on a fretless.
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Linus Van Pelt wrote:I subscribe to neither prong of your false dichotomy.
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26re: truly original artist
i dunno. you can say "yellow meets red" but that becomes orange--something derrived but unique. i think unique is a better criterion than original. maybe it's just semantics. in my record collection i can't imagine anyone duplicating the sounds of...
us maple
lungfish
mare
shellac
sonic youth
animal collective
joanna newsom
polvo
i dunno. you can say "yellow meets red" but that becomes orange--something derrived but unique. i think unique is a better criterion than original. maybe it's just semantics. in my record collection i can't imagine anyone duplicating the sounds of...
us maple
lungfish
mare
shellac
sonic youth
animal collective
joanna newsom
polvo
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27Antero wrote:it's a LOT of energy to put into sounding completely bland.
cheers
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28Yeah, this discussion happened before (can't find it, tried but just can't). It wound up talking about quarter-tones and alternate tunings.
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29BadComrade wrote:Bassist Michael Manring.
He invented a 3 octave fretless bass that has a lever on each tuning machine that allows him to change the tuning of each string "on the fly". The bridge has a lever on it as well, which allows him to change the tuning of all 4 strings at once.
His song The Enormous Room has about 114 tuning changes in it, and it's played in 14 different tuning. The tunings are:
Bb F Bb F
Bb G Bb Eb
F G Ab Eb
F F Ab Eb
Bb F Bb Eb
Ab Eb Bb F
Eb Eb Bb F
F F Bb F
Bb G Bb F
Ab F Bb F
F G Bb F
Ab Eb Bb Eb
F F Bb Eb
Ab Eb Ab Eb
Here is a video of him playing the song
I'm not saying anyone here's actually going to like it or anything (I do), but he's a pretty fucking unique bass player. He also occasionally plays 3 basses at the same time. I've seen him do both things live, and it's just fucking amazing.
When I first heard this fella, I thought...what the fuck? Fuck this wannabe Steve Vai motherfucker and his fucking chudpull pudlicker bass.
Then I thought, wait a minute...who else has invented machines to on the fly detune and retune a bass, etc. etc. Points for mechanical originality. Oh, and amazing performance.
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30unarmedman wrote:Yeah, this discussion happened before (can't find it, tried but just can't). It wound up talking about quarter-tones and alternate tunings.
In that vein, Jeroen Thesseling.
And Demetrio Stratos for the Hell of it.