They'd be cooler if they did something for Jovan Musk.

Leaves an awful taste in the mouth, but this is no worse than signing to Geffen & encouraging others to make similiar leaps. Certainly no worse than their phases of patronising art-world hero worship and fashionista posing.

Starbucks is a hard business to rate, great to it's employees maybe, but terrible to the community. I wouldn't punch anyone for working there, but I boycott it. Increasing coffee consumption is definitely a bad thing in my books. I want fucking rootbeer and a torte, not a fucking grown-up's milkshake made of beans picked by poverty-stricken brown people and served with a goddamn muffin. Muffins. Fucking muffins and flapjacks. Whatever happened to fucking crumpets, bread pudding, french toast, tarts, bakewells, drop scones, and crepes? What is it with these syrupy heaps of dough and/or oats flooding the market? Are they made out of melted down AOL trial CDs and copies of Monster? When I put something from the baker's in my gob, I don't want my teeth to fall out and my blood sugar to be raped to shit. Goddamn muffin selling bastards.

More jaded "being independent is over, man... we're grown up" bullshit from the occasional best band in the world. The last two records seem wicked boring, but I bet my toes they'll put out another good'un pretty soon.

sleepkid wrote:This is either Thurston Moore taking a big dump on Pitchfork, or Pitchfork taking a big dump on anyone who reads their crap.

'Tis only one song.

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John C3 wrote:

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John C3 wrote:

same wrote:They've paid their dues. Let 'em make some money. They probably have bad backs and mouths to feed. I know plenty of cool people (who I would not say "Fuck this person" about) who do graphic design for a living and work on advertisements for huge corporations. How is this any different?

It isn't. Fuck those people.

Why?

I don't understand by what rationale a person who does advertising work for huge corporations can still be considered 'cool'. This is not a 'cool' thing to do.

What do you do for a living that's so fucking righteous?

Believe me, there are kind people out there, who have a good sense of humor and good taste in art and music, who are intelligent, creative, decent human beings, and they just so happen to work for a design firm that takes up occasional bids from "evil" corporations to pay the bills. I know some of these people. They are cool. Believe me.

I'm sure. I'm sure they're nice people.

Howard Zinn said the term collaborator shouldn't have fallen out of the vocabulary after the second world war. I agree.

Since you ask, when I work I work in libraries, institutions where the commodity is neither sold nor pushed and where only a disregard of the rules of sharing the commodity brings about an economic factor in the consumer's relation to the institution.

John C3 wrote:If Ian Mackaye did a Starbucks advert would you still think he was cool? He's paid his dues, right?

I never thought Ian McKay was cool. He seems like kind of a preachy spaz and I don't like the bands he's been in.

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John C3 wrote:If Ian Mackaye did a Starbucks advert would you still think he was cool? He's paid his dues, right?

I never thought Ian McKay was cool. He seems like kind of a preachy spaz and I don't like the bands he's been in.

I'm still curious to hear your profession.

See above.

John C3 wrote:Since you ask, when I work I work in libraries, institutions where the commodity is neither sold nor pushed and where only a disregard of the rules of sharing the commodity brings about an economic factor in the consumer's relation to the institution.

Dude, there's a fucking Starbucks in my library.

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John C3 wrote:Since you ask, when I work I work in libraries, institutions where the commodity is neither sold nor pushed and where only a disregard of the rules of sharing the commodity brings about an economic factor in the consumer's relation to the institution.

Dude, there's a fucking Starbucks in my library.

Yes, capitalism is very good at what it does.

Cool.

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John C3 wrote:If Ian Mackaye did a Starbucks advert would you still think he was cool? He's paid his dues, right?

I never thought Ian McKay was cool. He seems like kind of a preachy spaz and I don't like the bands he's been in.

I'm reminded of opening an old can of indie cred worms:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/30367.html