Mr. Chimp wrote:Coco's gotta go to college.

steve wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:Steve, what particular beef do you have with them signing to Geffen?

The fact that they ushered in many young bands that might have done better for themselves on an independent?

That's about it, though it isn't just about them as figureheads. They were active in recruiting bands for the label, and vocal advocates for bands getting involved with the mainstream music business, where most of them were destroyed.

They generally accellerated (even championed) the process whereby the old-school music business paradigm, with its managers, lawyers, promotion men and other agencies encroached on what had been a thriving underground. It was ugly to watch, because all those people were sick fucks I wanted nothing to do with, and now all of a sudden they were holding our peers lives in their hands and blowing bullshit in everybody's ear.

Gramsci wrote:How is this any different from selling your records on Geffen?

Minotaur029 wrote:

steve wrote:That's about it, though it isn't just about them as figureheads. They were active in recruiting bands for the label, and vocal advocates for bands getting involved with the mainstream music business, where most of them were destroyed.

So, Sonic Youth is actively destructive as they make their way through the "forest."

Colonel Panic wrote:Well if we're talking art, let's talk art. What about the difference between designing a logo or corporate ID for them, or offering your paintings in their stores for sale.

Isn't that a more reasonable analogy than equating mopping a floor with creating art?

Colonel Panic wrote:I think blaming Sonic Youth for Kurt Cobain's suicide is going a little far, just for the sake of dramatics.

I have lost several good friends to drugs and other excesses, but I don't feel right blaming others for that. We make our own decisions.

Colonel Panic wrote:I think blaming Sonic Youth for Kurt Cobain's suicide is going a little far, just for the sake of dramatics.