m.koren wrote:Are these the same folks who do "I fought the war but the war blah blah blah". If so , infinite crap. Finite crap if we're lucky.

No, that's Metric, and I like Metric. That song isn't so great though.

Thanks for that. Naming of this evil helps lessen its grip over my phyche.

I saw this band at the Metro on two separate occasions. The first time, Karen O started off by saying that she was very sick and that the set would be a little short that night and that if she wasn't exactly her usual self, it's because she's on tons of cold medicine. The show was actually one of the best I've ever been to and her illness only displayed itself in her lack of jumping around and whatnot. Fine by me. The second time I saw them, Karen was not sick in the slightest. She was drunk off her ass, falling over, laying down while singing, incoherent ramblings between songs, etc. Also, their set was needlessly longer. The band was ok, but altogether it was one of the worst shows I've ever been too and the only time I've ever left a show feeling pissed or ripped off. And later I heard that "Gold Lion" song and to me it sounds like Green Day or Avril Lavigne. No thanks, Karen.

Not Crap.

Their live show is so-so, their second album is shit, the media and fashion whoring I never really even thought about until reading the punk police comments here.

But 4 years later I still listen to Fever to Tell, I think it's a fantastic album. I really like some of the effects the Nick Cave clone uses, I love Karen Os shouty intensity, the rythms are kind of bland, but I hear alot of passion in those songs. Not worth the hype machine that was built around it, and probably not the kind of album people will be talking about in 10 years, but still a very good album.

I met Karen O a few weeks ago. She was with Vince Gallo who I went to see because we were thinking about trading Beans. It was pretty surreal, my lady and I went to their hotel room, Gallo was showing me all these Beans he'd bought during a road trip between LA and NYC, he had at least 5 of them in the room: a yellow 500, a wedge, white, black and red standards.... Karen O was sprawled out on the bed, just laying there not really saying much, of course I would've loved to have seen my lady go down on her or vice versa, she looked okay without all the clown paint on her face. She's not pretty, but she is sexy.

After a few years of thinking Crap, when I thought about them at all, I gotta go with Not Crap.

Heard the first EP, totally unimpressed, sounded way thinner than it was supposed to, if that makes sense.

Heard the second EP, not quite as unimpressed, but close.

Heard the first album, hated the cover art, didn't care about the music, save for "Maps," which I liked, and the video for "Maps," which I found inspired.

Heard the second album, cared even less, except for the "Phenomena" song

Saw them live, totally understood why people liked them, still didn't care all that much. Drummer is weirdly underrated, guitarist clearly loves the Cramps and Birthday Party more than anything other than black jeans.

Heard the new EP, which I adore more than any other major label album this year: big, niosy, stomping rock songs produced by Nick Launay (sp?). Hasn't left my car for two weeks, love it to the point I feel compelled to check out what I missed about their earlier music. (God, I love EPs. Five songs every 9-14 months is so, SO much better than 12-15 every 24 months....)

Saw them live at Lollapalooza, which I had to cover for work. They ripped it harder than anyone there save Iggy and the Stooges. Excellent set. (Hired gun bass player the skinniest human I have ever seen outside of actual starving people. A hard shove might literally break his legs to pieces.)

That is all.

joegross wrote:After a few years of thinking Crap, when I thought about them at all, I gotta go with Not Crap.

Heard the first EP, totally unimpressed, sounded way thinner than it was supposed to, if that makes sense.

Heard the second EP, not quite as unimpressed, but close.

Heard the first album, hated the cover art, didn't care about the music, save for "Maps," which I liked, and the video for "Maps," which I found inspired.

Heard the second album, cared even less, except for the "Phenomena" song

Saw them live, totally understood why people liked them, still didn't care all that much. Drummer is weirdly underrated, guitarist clearly loves the Cramps and Birthday Party more than anything other than black jeans.

Heard the new EP, which I adore more than any other major label album this year: big, niosy, stomping rock songs produced by Nick Launay (sp?). Hasn't left my car for two weeks, love it to the point I feel compelled to check out what I missed about their earlier music. (God, I love EPs. Five songs every 9-14 months is so, SO much better than 12-15 every 24 months....)

Saw them live at Lollapalooza, which I had to cover for work. They ripped it harder than anyone there save Iggy and the Stooges. Excellent set. (Hired gun bass player the skinniest human I have ever seen outside of actual starving people. A hard shove might literally break his legs to pieces.)

That is all.

Ha! I checked this bands records out a while back due to this thread. And this was AFTER I had seen them live and thought they were annoying rubbish.

I won't fall for it another time.

On the Karen O attractive/ugly question: I was too far away to see, but not to far for her to annoy me.

What is wrong with you people? Not Crap. Good ep's/first album. Second one is a snoozer. then their new ep is alright. Karen O wants to be a rock star. God bless her. The world needs more people getting on stage and going nuts rather than whinny old bastards. Oh and yea she takes her fashion advice from one of her friends who happens to be a wild designer. Who gives a shit. If my band was generating enough money I'd employ all of my friends in random ways so they could come along for the crazy ride that is fame and popularity.

I was sold when I saw a clip of Karen O playing Maps on a MTV awards. It was one of the first years MTV had rock bands again on those awards shows after the late nineties were all Rap, R and B, and whatever..... She ended Map's with tears of joy in her eyes and streaming down her face. FUCK YEA!!! I wanna see more bands, who right when they get into public eye, really enjoy themselves and appreciate the moment. Rather than the we deserve it, strike a pose bastards that are on the airwaves now. For some of you, your music snobbery is way to much for your own good.

John George Peppers wrote:If my band was generating enough money I'd employ all of my friends in random ways so they could come along for the crazy ride that is fame and popularity.

caix wrote:Also, I watched a documentary that had an interview with them in there. That made me think less of them. They came off pretty one-dimensional.

If it's Kill Your Idols you're talking about, I saw this movie last night. It makes them look pretty bad. Karen O comes off as the dumbest person on the planet. She said "like" and "ya know?" before, after and in-between every word.

A.R.E. Weapons, I have never heard of you until this movie. Fuck you and your shit band. This is not a scene. It's a fucking disaster area.

I have come to enjoy their second record, I thought it was horrible at first. Went back to it and it's strong. Good songs on there, guess I was just expecting something much different.