This city is so NC. It's just dirty as fuck. There's a good neighborhood next to a bad neighborhood next to a good neighborhood next to a bad neighborhood into infinity...kinda makes it weird that way.

Example: across from Independence Hall on one side (whichever side has the Liberty Bell) is a dirty as fuck street in a dirty ass neighborhood. Yet...there are incredible relics of clean culture right across the way. I was looking at Independence Hall and thinking about this oddity...when unexpectedly, a blast of hot, dirty, filthy air slammed into my fucking face.

The thin colonial houses that cost like a million dollars blew my mind...again, the oldest neighborhood/street in America would be right next to Dump/Poop street. Weird shit.

Also, the graves of serious ballers are strewn throughout the city in weird places...like uh...churches...(okay, not so weird). I found all sorts of names I recognized from the Declaration of Independence...James Wilson's grave sticks out in my mind. A serious revolutionary...reduced to anonymity and a pile of fucking bones.

NOT CRAP!


Also, could some real Baltimore/Philly/North Jersey/Delaware types tell me what the most serious EA-type band in Philly is? Is Stinking Lizaveta from Philadelphia? Please, please, please enlighten my black ass.

Minotaur029 wrote:This city is so NC. It's just dirty as fuck. There's a good neighborhood next to a bad neighborhood next to a good neighborhood next to a bad neighborhood into infinity...kinda makes it weird that way.

Example: across from Independence Hall on one side (whichever side has the Liberty Bell) is a dirty as fuck street in a dirty ass neighborhood. Yet...there are incredible relics of clean culture right across the way. I was looking at Independence Hall and thinking about this oddity...when unexpectedly, a blast of hot, dirty, filthy air slammed into my fucking face.

The thin colonial houses that cost like a million dollars blew my mind...again, the oldest neighborhood/street in America would be right next to Dump/Poop street. Weird shit.

Also, the graves of serious ballers are strewn throughout the city in weird places...like uh...churches...(okay, not so weird). I found all sorts of names I recognized from the Declaration of Independence...James Wilson's grave sticks out in my mind. A serious revolutionary...reduced to anonymity and a pile of fucking bones.

NOT CRAP!


Also, could some real Baltimore/Philly/North Jersey/Delaware types tell me what the most serious EA-type band in Philly is? Is Stinking Lizaveta from Philadelphia? Please, please, please enlighten my black ass.

I guess you are talking about market street, but I can't be sure. That whole neighborhood is pretty nice. the farther north you go, of course you run into the bridge area, which is kind of nasty with all the traffic, but still, it's definitely a high class area.

for the most part all that society hill and olde city are not adjacent anywhere dirty or dangerous. there are muggings around the southern end, near south street, but for the most part it's super safe.

One thing I noticed a few years ago walking home, was realizing that all the jewish grave yards are for some reason all located outside the original boundaries of the city. cute.

music scene wise, I have no idea.

Minotaur029 wrote:Also, could some real Baltimore/Philly/North Jersey/Delaware types tell me what the most serious EA-type band in Philly is? Is Stinking Lizaveta from Philadelphia? Please, please, please enlighten my black ass.

lizaveta is from philly. south jersey is the part near philly (north is near ny). is your ass black?

as far as "ea type" bands, well there's technician, the "shell-like" band that is controversial on this board.

here's a random sampling of bands off the top of my head...


out, aggressive:

satanized
normal love
csection
tweeter


proggy/arty but not in a guitar mag kind of way:

make a rising
capillary action


good indie rock:

hermit thrushes
brown recluse sings
sunny day in glasgow
circles


the popular stuff:

man man
espers
fursaxa
dr. dog
bardo pond
hail social


metal:

time is like a sword
sil veth
knife the glitter
a life once lost
some of the members of dillinger escape plan


moved to new york:

dysrhythmia
krakatoa (the instrumental one, not the metal one)


broke up:

fuck with the bull get the horns

this summer it has stunk bad here in philadelphia.

It seems like every other night there's a fire that I smell at night. Then on the other nights, the wind is blowing the wrong way and the smell from the river (rotting eggs etc) takes over.

tonight we have the rotten eggs smell.

carpe_diaz wrote:what are the goats doing now.

Oh fuck, how long has it been since I even thought about the Goats? There's always some next big thing that will "finally put Philly on the map" rap-wise, and at that moment it was Ruffhouse and the Butcher Brothers.

kerble wrote:Are you asking? Oatie and Swayzack (or Madd) are backing some singer songwriter lady from florida. the other of the three went flaky and vanished.

I had thought it was Oatie who took off -- friends ran into Swayzack some years ago and asked what had happened to the group, and Swayzack made a disgusted face and said "he up and took his wackass rhymes to California". There were rumors of drug problems as well.

Whatever happened to Rucyl Mills, their lovely singer, who went to my high school? Pierce Tiernay, the bass player, who made hoagies at the Silver Slicer on Lancaster Pike in Ardmore?

Philadelphia, the city of my birth, eating itself alive one soul at a time. I have such a mixture of love and pity and anger and horror for Philadelphia that it's hard for me to be there.

at least one of the goats was in incognegro, i believe, and one is now in black landlord.

philly's been on the map of rap (though not always for good stuff). eve, freeway, cassidy, beanie siegel, roots, fresh prince / will smith and jazzy jeff, bahamadia, schooly d, high and mighty, jedi mind tricks, last emperor, mountain brothers / chops...

?uestlove, scott storch and james poyser produce tons of albums by everybody (ok not sure about poyser).

world of pee wrote:philly's been on the map of rap (though not always for good stuff). eve, freeway, cassidy, beanie siegel, roots, fresh prince / will smith and jazzy jeff, bahamadia, schooly d, high and mighty, jedi mind tricks, last emperor, mountain brothers / chops...

?uestlove, scott storch and james poyser produce tons of albums by everybody (ok not sure about poyser).

There's certainly tons of great stuff coming out of Philadelphia rapwise, and there always has been. The "next big thing" sentiment I was referring to was more about jumpy high school kids wanting to claim a major-label superstar from their town, rather than an evaluation of the actual level of cultural activity.

Funny how lots of the names on your list aren't people I would associate with good career or life choices. The curse of Philly? Beanie comes off like a vicodin-addled wreck these days, a man not long for this world. I haven't heard much from Chops or High & Mighty for a minute, but perhaps I haven't been paying attention closely enough.

I've heard many stories of Jazzy Jeff and Bahamadia being incredibly generous and supportive to people they encounter, including kids just getting their start as DJs and MCs.

brother sent me this story:

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_up ... 59519.html


about 2 blocks from where I live.