Superking wrote:I'd like to pass along some love to the PRF member who suggested Alan Carr to me. The book was a big help. Thanks.

That book is unusual in being extremely effective in helping you stop once. If you fall off the wagon and try using the book again you may as well read the Beano.

I quit drinking completely these last couple of months so haven't had the pleasure of investigating the new smoke-free pub environments of Britain much. Cigarettes are the last thing to go, and I'm off to the smoking-cessation clinic at my doctor's this week to get patches. I am really looking forward to being rid of this stupid addiction that makes my lungs hurt.

Smoking is stupid.

John CIV wrote:

Superking wrote:I'd like to pass along some love to the PRF member who suggested Alan Carr to me. The book was a big help. Thanks.

That book is unusual in being extremely effective in helping you stop once. If you fall off the wagon and try using the book again you may as well read the Beano.

If you read the Alan Carr book, quit, and fall off the wagon, go to one of the clinics. You get free backup sessions. Use them if you need to. It does work. 'You' are not special.

I quit three and a half years ago with this method and haven't wanted one, had one, or thought about it much at all in that time. It can be done.

i like smoking.

also, i like not having addictions.

if you're an addict that's your own non-moderating fault.

lots of things are addictive. how many of those are you addicted to? how many do you try every now and again? alcohol, chocolate, exercise, not eating, eating, masturbating, fucking, gambling, etc.

not all of those cause cancer, but some cause death, and all of them have their own set of problems, issues, benefits.

smoking: not crap.
smoking pot: not crap.
smoking crack: crap.

etc.

that damned fly wrote:i like smoking.

lots of things are addictive. how many of those are you addicted to? how many do you try every now and again? alcohol, chocolate, exercise, not eating, eating, masturbating, fucking, gambling, etc.

Bollocks. How many of these directly shorten your life by years, and cost you a fortune, and ultimately give you...nothing? That's right, nothing back. Nothing.

I don't want to be a tedious ex-smoker, but this is a stupid set of comparisons. I'm even cool with saying 'it's rock and roll', but comparing smoking with exercise, sex, and food is just stupidity. Alcohol and gambling addictions work on the same repitilian brainstem as nicotine, but even they aren't as insidious. Grow up.

smoking? whatever. I'm fine with it.

don't do it often, but I don't really care.

johnnyshape wrote:

that damned fly wrote:i like smoking.

lots of things are addictive. how many of those are you addicted to? how many do you try every now and again? alcohol, chocolate, exercise, not eating, eating, masturbating, fucking, gambling, etc.

Bollocks. How many of these directly shorten your life by years, and cost you a fortune, and ultimately give you...nothing? That's right, nothing back. Nothing.

Oh fuck, I'll only live to be 60 or 70 instead of 90, drooling in a diaper. Damn.
Smoking makes people feel good, it calms them down and relaxes them.
It's a social thing, people can sit and smoke cigaretes and talk.
That's what it gives them, to some that's worth a decent amount of money. Some people buy expensive rims and little TV sets for their car, who's to say what's a waste of money?
If people like smoking let them, life's too short to deprive yourself of the things that make you feel good just because it's suddenly the thing to do.
Fuck it, you know?

thanks, 'Sup'.

barring any tragedy or illness my lifespan is looking like 85.

i do not want to be 85. even if i have kids or grandkids i don't want to grow older and see what disappointments they'll be.

i'll continue drinking as much as i'd like and smoking what and when i'd like and not thinking any of these things crap.

that damned fly wrote:thanks, 'Sup'.

barring any tragedy or illness my lifespan is looking like 85.

i do not want to be 85. even if i have kids or grandkids i don't want to grow older and see what disappointments they'll be.

i'll continue drinking as much as i'd like and smoking what and when i'd like and not thinking any of these things crap.

shit I don't even wanna be 35, fuck this shit

Marsupialized wrote:

that damned fly wrote:thanks, 'Sup'.

barring any tragedy or illness my lifespan is looking like 85.

i do not want to be 85. even if i have kids or grandkids i don't want to grow older and see what disappointments they'll be.

i'll continue drinking as much as i'd like and smoking what and when i'd like and not thinking any of these things crap.

shit I don't even wanna be 35, fuck this shit

we're in agreement.

i'm tired already and i've been this way for years.

that damned fly wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:

that damned fly wrote:thanks, 'Sup'.

barring any tragedy or illness my lifespan is looking like 85.

i do not want to be 85. even if i have kids or grandkids i don't want to grow older and see what disappointments they'll be.

i'll continue drinking as much as i'd like and smoking what and when i'd like and not thinking any of these things crap.

shit I don't even wanna be 35, fuck this shit

we're in agreement.

i'm tired already and i've been this way for years.

It's a bum deal, at some point you realize it. Happens to everyone, some sooner than later.