mr.arrison wrote:eliya, you are nice and all, but your argument is swiss cheese.

I've had close to fifteen different guitar amps and fifteen different guitars in my life, and amps do play a big part in the way an instrument sounds. As big a part as the guitars themselves, hands down

Would you argue with a winemaker on the fact that different grapes in different regions, soils and climates produce a different type of wine?

Coffee harvested off the ground in Africa instead of off the tree in Costa Rica doesn't taste any different to you? "It's just coffee"- right?

Idiotic.

Even complete musical ignoramuses can probably describe in paragraphs how a Fender Super Reverb sounds different than a Hiwatt DR103.

I could get the same sound out of every amp I used.
In Israel, there's no such a thing touring with your gear. every club has it's own amps and drums, and you're allowed to use them. and of course practice spaces - almost no band has a private practice space. my point is that I've played variety of bass amps, solid states, tube amps. Ampegs, gallien kruegers, fenders, marshalls(this one was a solid state shit amp), selmers, behringer, etc'.
For some reason I got the same sound out of them all.
I still believe a guitar player can get the same sound, more or less, out of different amps. Im not saying that these amps aren't different. Im saying that the player can get the same sound out of different amps. that's why your coffee and wine analogies don't hold here.

eliya

You have magic fingers, is all I can say. I would have stuck with my first amp if they all sounded the same, and would have saved a lot of time and money over the years.

Either that, or you have tin ears.

I have like, 12 different amps because they all have very different sounds. If you can make a Behringer sound like an old Selmer, then you are a wizard.

Wow, seeing bands that all use the same gear must be really, uh, like boxed mashed potatoes. Like Grits without salt and butter, over and over again.

Maybe you get your "tone" from pedals?


So, I guess all microphones sound the same too since they are more or less little reverse amplifiers, right? I am sure that'll save everybody here lots of money since we now know we can all use SM57's instead of Coles ribbon mics..

And drums too. A brass shell snare sounds exactly like a hard rock maple snare. Why not just play a CB kit. It'll be as good as any vintage Ludwig or Roger's set.. right?

Idiotic.

It was hard to make the behringer sound like an old selmer, especially when I played it through 4X10 or 4X12.

Israeli Rock is like mash potatos but not because of the amps. because of the people.

Ribbon microphones are different from other dynamic microphone, because of their mechanical structure. Condensers are different from dynamics, same reason as the above. Large diaphragm condensers are different from small diaphragm condensers. small diaphragm dynamics are different from large diaphragm dynamics. The mechanical structure of the microphone is what counts, what amplifies the signal after the capsule is also important. but way less important than the capsule itself. Tube mics sound different than solid state mics mainly because of the THD. High voltage mics are different than phantom mics because the capsule is being more efficient when the voltage it's getting is higher.

Brass snare sounds differently from a wood snare because these two materials are different.
Many people believe that they can achieve huge drums sound only out of huge drums. I think that Todd Trainer showed them that this is possible using small drum sizes. Im sure he will have his big sound using huge drums too.

A neve console is different from an SSL console, which is different from a Neotek console right?
They will all supply great results and you can make them all sound the same, assuming that you know what you're doing.

I think that first of all, you need to be a good player, then you need to have a good instrument and only then a good amplification system.

When amps are being played at their "working" level, you'd get the same sound out of them all. even when they're at 10, you can get the same sound.
What i'm saying is that it's all in your hands and that 15k amps won't make your sound unique. more than that, you can get the same sound out of a 1000$ amp too.
and there's a good chance that my ears are thin.

zom-zom wrote:

m.koren wrote:
Please do. For obvious reasons, I'm just a little concerned about the moisture content.

Here's the website.

Thanks. I would see a band and/or call my solo album 'Timeless Timber'.

Okay. Good gear makes you sound better than crappy gear. Case closed.

if only the spanish could get there heads around this recovered lumber idea..

it would be nice to have a studio floor that looked like this..



15k for and effects loop is insane.

one last thing, fuck stevie ray vaughn

r0ck1r0ck2 wrote:one last thing, fuck stevie ray vaughn

We the foreigners, we know what's good and what's bad.

I might go to the shop selling this Dumbleator today. You think the guy will let me play through it?

r0ck1r0ck2 wrote:one last thing, fuck stevie ray vaughn

He can't hear you.