I like the guy that posts here from his iPhone and never spells anything wrong or seems like it took him an hour. He seems like a likeable guy.

Hexpane, thanks for the really mind-numbing, well thought-out, long-winded analysis. You've proven yourself right: I don't need to spend any time in your company to learn what a fucking joy you must be to be around.

Hats off to you and your boring diatribe.

oxlongm wrote:

lemur68 wrote:I remember back when they came out with the first mass-market application of the mouse, for those who found the total lack of a mouse too complicated.

FYP

Mice, then as now, usually had two or more buttons, and I distinctly remember a Macintosh ad campaign touting the "only one button" aspect.

Anyway, I got nothing against Apple, I just like to bust its balls sometimes.

the the Mac exist and have a mouse before the Apple IIgs? The IIgs was my first exposure to the mouse, in like 86 or 87. One button. Made playing Bard's Tale a joy.

Nothing to do with the iPhone, so off-topic here, but still.

The original Mac in 1984 had a mouse. Xerox had invented the mouse years before, and I think it was already being included (sometimes in multi-button form, I'd assume) on some professional workstations, and even some other Apples. But I don't think any of the successful consumer computers available at the time (IBMs, Commodores, Tandys, Ataris) had them. So it wasn't really any technical innovation on Apple's part, just that they were the first to launch a widely-adopted computer using it as an integral piece of the interface.

I think Microsoft and others actually were selling a mouse before the Mac, and when they did become popular on Windows machines, it was with 2 buttons. I'm sure Apple had some coherent reason for thinking 1 button was inherently easier, but once the entire industrialized world got accustomed to 2 buttons, they really should have let it go without waiting 15 years.

I think this whole mouse thing is a really good illustration of Apple coolness (making existing inventions work better for non-experts) and Apple douchebaggery (first refusing to upgrade a too-simple device while marketing this refusal as genius, and then catching up 15 years late and immediately marketing the late catch-up as genius).

Hexpane wrote:the iphone is still a horrible phone, a horrible email device and a shitty all around product built on solid concepts

Hexpane wrote:I absolutely accept that the iphone is generally a great device and works for a lot of people, gets glowing reviews and is uber t3h sexies!

You're really not into saving yourself effort, are you?

Maybe you'd be better off with a more cumbersome keyboard.

Just saw this in the latest update on ZDnet

ZDNet wrote:Apple to nuke unlocked iPhones with next update
Apple is playing hardball with the unlocked iPhone movement. Apple's next software update, due later this week, will make modified iPhones "permanently inoperable."

MWAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

PERMANENTLY?!?!?!?

oxlongm wrote:Xerox had invented the mouse years before

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Engelbart

madlee wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Engelbart

Zenglebert Humptyback?

scott wrote:Just saw this in the latest update on ZDnet

ZDNet wrote:Apple to nuke unlocked iPhones with next update
Apple is playing hardball with the unlocked iPhone movement. Apple's next software update, due later this week, will make modified iPhones "permanently inoperable."

MWAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

PERMANENTLY?!?!?!?

Smoke screen. Sony does the same thing w/ PSPs, trying to hack the firmware can brick your PSP. However hackers even the "retired" PSP hackers managed to make a PSP service mode battery that can actually unbrick PSPs, which is amazing.

Speaking of PSP, worst fucking keyboard ever! However of course I knew that WITHOUT EVEN TRYING IT. Through the magic of this invention called VIDEOs of people trying it.

I na0 have a PSP and the keyboard is *exactly* the same as it was in the video. Go figure? I guess I should become a gambler since my amazing ability to watch videos and make judgments is foreign to a few of these iPhone humpers who dodged the obvious question "

Germ War wrote:Hexpane, thanks for the really mind-numbing, well thought-out, long-winded analysis. You've proven yourself right: I don't need to spend any time in your company to learn what a fucking joy you must be to be around.

Hats off to you and your boring diatribe.

answer the fucking question flamer boy. You obviously can only flame because you are afraid to be truthful. You wont even provide a response because if you tell the truth it proves my point, if you lie its such a bogus fucking stance that you wont even get behind it

The entire basis of your silly little argument is that one can not comment on the iphone keypad without trying it. Not only is that the argument of an autistic 7 year old, it goes against common knowledge.

You sound like Shari Sheppard. How do *you* know the world isnt flat, not like you've seen it for yourself yeah?

Do you try *everything* out for yoruself before commenting on it?
Is it possible to watch a video of something, oh say like a virtual keyboard and form an opinion?
Do you not trust data sheets?