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Jeremy wrote:I like Zildjian A customs, As, and Ks. For hihats i use an old set of new beats. they're pretty dark and record well.

this has basically been my set up for a long time. As and A customs are always a sure thing.. but sometimes too sure ie. a little boring. some Ks are cool and some are way too dark, like my K custom crash i hardly use anymore. zildjians are usually pretty good across the board, except for the ZBT (entry level) ones you mention and i'm not a fan of the Z series.. too fuckin' zingy.

the last 2 recordings i've played on i used some Paistes (not familiar with their model names). i've always thought Paistes sound kind of fucked up, but they sound great on the recordings.. they stand out more than the A customs i normally use.

Ditto on the Paistes. I like the K custom rides in loud music because they're nearly impossible to crash so they cut through the rest of the music (noise).

You shouldn't have moved to Chicago. You should have stayed in Somerville.

You shouldn't have moved to Chicago. You should have stayed in Somerville.

hehe, it was Somerset, but in a lot of ways i still wish i was there.

i use A custom for my hi-hat and for my ride and they sound great. i put rivets in my old ZXTs cause they're fucking awful, and its an interesting texture to add if played with other cymbals. can't really work very well on its own though.

tarandfeathers wrote:Istanbul or Bosphorus are both really good bets. About in line with Zildjians K series, quality wise, all hand made in Turkey and a ton cheaper than equivalent American brands. I'm in the process of replacing all my vintage Zildjians with Istanbuls. They tend to be on the thin side I think though, so if heavy is your game you might want to try some that are rated heavier than you'd usually use...

Solid advice right there. I've got Istanbul Traditional 18" and 20" Heavy Crashes and they sound exceptional.

Ooh!

How convenient - I have some cymbal questions if anybody has a moment free to help a stupid guitar player.

With my £100 Slingerland kit came a few cymbals. A pair of (boring) Pearl HHs, and two rides. At least I think they're both rides, maybe one is a heavy crash...I don't know, hence my post.

Cymbal A seems to be a pre-serial Paiste Formula 602 18" ride, although perhaps it's a heavy crash? It weighs about 1600g. It has no print on it, just a stamp.

Ride? Crash?

Cymbal B is a 20" Avedis Zildjian with no print and no serial, just a stamp. It's about 2000g.

I have no idea what model this cymbal is, or how to find out.

Anybody?

Asshole.

You'll want to look really closely at the cymbal and look for the hammer stamp. That will tell you where the cymbal was made and it may say "A" or "K."

If it says "Zildjian K, Made in Istanbul," it's a piece of shit, and you should just box it up and write something on the outside of the box... say my address... and then throw it as hard as you can in the direction of a postal van.

Seriously, there's a strong chance that your Zildjian is a Turkish cymbal and is therefore worth a lot of money to some jazz player somewhere, so be aware of the market that exists for vintage cymbals.

I personally hit the cymbals too hard to find vintage bronze to be anything more than annoyingly fragile. You may find that you can cover the cost of new cymbals plus the cost of your kit by selling those cymbals to the highest bidder.

Bastard.

dontfeartheringo wrote:Bastard.

Thanks!

No, it's from the US of A.

I've been told it's an A series, probably from the 70s. That would fit, age-wise. Nothing special then, but it's a ride!

I have a drum kit!

Woo!

Alberto the Frog wrote:

dontfeartheringo wrote:Bastard.

Thanks!

No, it's from the US of A.

I've been told it's an A series, probably from the 70s. That would fit, age-wise. Nothing special then, but it's a ride!

I have a drum kit!

Woo!

And a damn fine one at that.

I have the same kit, only twenty years older and a Radio King kit. Same white pearl finish and same "Sound King" lugs. Come to think of it, I paid the same for it as well.

I highly suggest Remo Ambassadors for the snare and toms, coated tops and clear bottoms on the toms and a "hazy" on the snare. I would also suggest a Remo Powerstroke P3 (single ply) for the batter head on the bass drum and an Ambassador with a felt strip on the resonant side.

I have been debating on renting a decent quality video camera and doing a tutorial on drum tuning, head choice, maximizing drum tone, etc. I think I would be doing the engineers of the world a massive favor.

I wonder if I could get a cameo from Mr. Albini talking about how there is no substitute for well tuned drums hit squarely and firmly..........

Recommendation request!

My kit is currently crash-less.

Can somebody recommend a good/cheap place to start, crash-wise?

Doesn't need to be fancy, just serviceable and not entirely horrible.

Thanks!