world of pee wrote:

roberto wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:is there still rap music?

yeah but the college kids ONLY call it "Hip Hop"

well, i don't think it's just the college kids. i think while there's a lot of disagreement over terms (just like in rock -- no kidding! who's punk and who's not?) there's a widespread notion among lots of people who may or may not have ever been in college that

hip hop is the genre
rap is the vocal style of the genre

sort of like

metal is the genre
chugging is the rhythm guitar style of the genre
shredding is the lead guitar style of the genre

therefore

hip hop is made by rappers and producers and djs, and if you want to extend beyond music, the "four elements of hip hop" also include breakdancers and graffiti artists.

rap was a more popular term in the past because the genre was new so it was like "oh you know, the music with the rapping", sort of like how every rapper had MC in their name, and now they don't, but they still refer to each other as MCs. why? because they all still consider themselves MCs, and refer to rapping as MCing, so at this point in time they don't need to state in their names.

make sense?

GhostFace wrote:could someone please explain to me how in hell soulja boy is a fucking hit? I mean thats got to be the worst song I have ever heard, there isn't even a verse. Its just moaning and grunting and the occasional super soak that ho!?!?!?

world of pee wrote:

roberto wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:is there still rap music?

yeah but the college kids ONLY call it "Hip Hop"

well, i don't think it's just the college kids. i think while there's a lot of disagreement over terms (just like in rock -- no kidding! who's punk and who's not?) there's a widespread notion among lots of people who may or may not have ever been in college that

hip hop is the genre
rap is the vocal style of the genre

sort of like

metal is the genre
chugging is the rhythm guitar style of the genre
shredding is the lead guitar style of the genre

therefore

hip hop is made by rappers and producers and djs, and if you want to extend beyond music, the "four elements of hip hop" also include breakdancers and graffiti artists.

rap was a more popular term in the past because the genre was new so it was like "oh you know, the music with the rapping", sort of like how every rapper had MC in their name, and now they don't, but they still refer to each other as MCs. why? because they all still consider themselves MCs, and refer to rapping as MCing, so at this point in time they don't need to state in their names.

make sense?

Mark Hansen wrote:I like some of the old school stuff. Run-D.M.C., Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash, even some of the early gangsta material like the Ghetto Boys and Ice-T.

The newer material just leaves me cold. It just seems so cliche. There's probably newer material out there I would like, but I really don't feel like searching it out.

I don't listen to newer punk rock either, for pretty much the same reason.

I will vote not crap for the older stuff I do like. I won't dismiss a whole genre, unless of course you're talking about Emo.

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world of pee wrote:

fancyjamtime wrote:Do you have homosexual friends who like reggae? Cock.

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